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Killer claims to be ill

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Galatine · 23/01/2025 12:09

According to the BBC Axel Rudakubana is shouting in court that he is ill.
AIBU to say I couldn’t give a shit!

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ReginaaPhalangee · 23/01/2025 12:12

Oh dear what a shame 🙄

Dotjones · 23/01/2025 12:14

I'm (pleasantly) surprised the judge is having none of it.

AnnaMagnani · 23/01/2025 12:14

It's nothing the court won't have seen or heard before.

Gaming that you aren't fit for court is very common in prison.

Iloveautumnwinterchristmas · 23/01/2025 12:14

Absolute scum bag. I hope he never gets a minutes peace for as long as he lives.

EasternStandard · 23/01/2025 12:19

What he said about the poor girls is so revolting.

Copernicus321 · 23/01/2025 12:20

He's trying to get committed to a secure hospital rather than an ordinary prison. Secure hosipitals are safer for inmates such as he, not by much but he knows that he won't be safe in an ordinary prison even under rule 43 segregation.

sprigatito · 23/01/2025 12:23

EasternStandard · 23/01/2025 12:19

What he said about the poor girls is so revolting.

What did he say?

IVFmumoftwo · 23/01/2025 12:26

sprigatito · 23/01/2025 12:23

What did he say?

That he was so glad and happy those children were dead.

IVFmumoftwo · 23/01/2025 12:27

Let's just say he will be glad to be just ill when some prisoners get hold of him.

AnnaMagnani · 23/01/2025 12:30

He can't go to a secure hospital for chest pain, although I'd be surprised if this wasn't what he is aiming for.

I think it's telling he started shouting just as his comments about being glad were read out. He didn't have control of the situation and couldn't face it.

Thedogscollar · 23/01/2025 12:31

Apparently he has been taken out of the dock to a side room.
I hope the judge throws the book at him.
He deserves everything that's coming his way inside.
Pure evil.

Galatine · 23/01/2025 12:31

Even hardened criminals will have little sympathy for someone like him. Let’s hope he lives a very long time and has to spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder.

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JHound · 23/01/2025 12:33

I would not be surprised if he is. Mentally.

I assume this is for sentencing? He already pled guilty.

KenAdams · 23/01/2025 12:34

AnnaMagnani · 23/01/2025 12:30

He can't go to a secure hospital for chest pain, although I'd be surprised if this wasn't what he is aiming for.

I think it's telling he started shouting just as his comments about being glad were read out. He didn't have control of the situation and couldn't face it.

This. He doesn't want to hear the detail again either.

Sarahconnor1 · 23/01/2025 12:37

The sentencing is absolutely harrowing.

The parents, survivors, passers by who helped, emergency services witnessed the most horrific things, I hope they are all getting whatever support they need.

tanstaafl · 23/01/2025 12:37

I’m sure I read that as he was 17 at the time it’s unlikely he’ll spend the rest of his life in jail.

SquirrelSoShiny · 23/01/2025 12:38

Everything about this case is horrendous, not least the fact that austerity meant that mental health services have been decimated. Imagine if he had actually been treated (and if necessary detained) before he became the man on the news.

The sad truth is this could have been prevented but the swing towards 'care' in the community has gone way too far. Leaving a very mentally ill young man in his bedroom on the internet for years doesn't count as 'care' by any stretch. The law needs to change in so many ways. There are so many young men like this in Britain and they are ticking time bombs.

murasaki · 23/01/2025 12:40

The judge has no truck with it , which is good. He just didn't want to watch the distressing footage that they are now showing. Coward.

Hoppinggreen · 23/01/2025 12:40

Well he IS clearly mentally ill but it makes no difference .
He is not so mentally ill he didn't know what he was doing

zerogrey · 23/01/2025 12:41

He's clearly completely fucking unhinged, but he needs to be thrown in solitary and fucking stay there the nasty little shit. He's a deeply violent nightmare.

PassingStranger · 23/01/2025 12:41

Just end the freak.

murasaki · 23/01/2025 12:41

tanstaafl · 23/01/2025 12:37

I’m sure I read that as he was 17 at the time it’s unlikely he’ll spend the rest of his life in jail.

He won't get a whole life tariff due to his age at the time but given the number of charges, and the very late plea change, it should be a very long time.

I wish the judge could add on more for his behaviour today, so disrespectful to the families, but suspect he can't.

Lovethatforyouhun · 23/01/2025 12:44

PassingStranger · 23/01/2025 12:41

Just end the freak.

This

GirlOfThe70s · 23/01/2025 12:45

I was wondering how the targetting of the dance school event came about? He got in a taxi to go there, armed with the knives - how did he know the school existed and that there would be little girls there that precise morning?

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 23/01/2025 12:46

I had thought that after examination, it was decided that he is not mentally ill and he hasn’t claimed to be but will be happy to be corrected

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