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Killer claims to be ill

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Galatine · 23/01/2025 12:09

According to the BBC Axel Rudakubana is shouting in court that he is ill.
AIBU to say I couldn’t give a shit!

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BlazenWeights · 23/01/2025 12:47

I hate that people have to die before mentally ill people are taken serious. This person has had history with police/mental services even expelled from a school for taking a knife in and threatening to kill his school mates for being bullied. That’s not a normal response to being bullied and it was on more than one occasion. Now he has killed innocent children and their families would always be in pain regardless of what sentence he gets. You know what would have been better? Locking him up BEFORE he committed this harrowing crime. I don’t really care what kind of prison he ends up. He’s still a very sick person regardless and frankly would probably be even sicker if he gets released at some point. My sympathy lies with the family of his victims . I’m sure his family are also in pain but they knew their child was sick, and I have not read anywhere that they asked for him to be committed to any place for help .

Almostwelsh · 23/01/2025 12:47

GirlOfThe70s · 23/01/2025 12:45

I was wondering how the targetting of the dance school event came about? He got in a taxi to go there, armed with the knives - how did he know the school existed and that there would be little girls there that precise morning?

I assume it was advertised locally and he saw it would be an easy target.

Illjusthavethebreadsticks · 23/01/2025 12:48

SquirrelSoShiny · 23/01/2025 12:38

Everything about this case is horrendous, not least the fact that austerity meant that mental health services have been decimated. Imagine if he had actually been treated (and if necessary detained) before he became the man on the news.

The sad truth is this could have been prevented but the swing towards 'care' in the community has gone way too far. Leaving a very mentally ill young man in his bedroom on the internet for years doesn't count as 'care' by any stretch. The law needs to change in so many ways. There are so many young men like this in Britain and they are ticking time bombs.

^this

Illjusthavethebreadsticks · 23/01/2025 12:48

Everyone has been failed here.

HangingOver · 23/01/2025 12:49

This fruitcake must have been dropped on his head or something. Totally nuts.

Labrawindow · 23/01/2025 12:49

No mentally well person does this sort of thing, BUT he has capacity, knew what he was doing, and was very calculated.

I hope he does feel ill, still nothing compared to what those poor girls felt.

This 'boo hoo I feel ill...' is laughable, coward.

ForSparklyLemonLurker · 23/01/2025 12:50

It's not often I wish death on another person. But this guy....

NoWordForFluffy · 23/01/2025 12:51

GirlOfThe70s · 23/01/2025 12:45

I was wondering how the targetting of the dance school event came about? He got in a taxi to go there, armed with the knives - how did he know the school existed and that there would be little girls there that precise morning?

I think it's to do with karate lessons he potentially had that he knew the place existed.

BreatheAndFocus · 23/01/2025 12:52

It’s being reported that he said he was feeling ill because he hadn’t eaten for 10 days 🙄 And who’s fault is that, you pile of sh*t?

The real ‘illness’ he’s suffering from is cowardice.

zerogrey · 23/01/2025 12:55

What gets me is that his obsession with violence was RIGHT FUCKING THERE, and it wasn't enough for people to act. His parents could have done something, but no. Now three girls are dead.

His father is a black belt in karate for god's sake. Why on earth he didnt put his foot down and do something to stop his son is beyond me, and no I don't mean kick the shit out of him.

GirlOfThe70s · 23/01/2025 12:55

I usually don't wish harm on people, but I'm hoping that the inmates of whatever institution he ends up in, take a leaf out of the book of the guy who attacked Sara Shariff's father. And if this time the tuna can lid is rusty, even better.

ChristmasPudd1990 · 23/01/2025 12:55

Should be made to wear a ball gag or something so he can listen to every single one of those impact statements.
He's been taken out again. Stop pandering to him FFS 🤬

Growsomeballswoman · 23/01/2025 12:55

if he does go on hunger strike, can he be allowed to die?

hookiewookie29 · 23/01/2025 12:56

Let's hope it's a long, and very painful illness...

ChristmasPudd1990 · 23/01/2025 12:57

PassingStranger · 23/01/2025 12:41

Just end the freak.

No. I want him to suffer for every single second of his vile life.

BreatheAndFocus · 23/01/2025 12:57

Growsomeballswoman · 23/01/2025 12:55

if he does go on hunger strike, can he be allowed to die?

No. They used a feeding tube on Brady.

BreatheAndFocus · 23/01/2025 12:59

hookiewookie29 · 23/01/2025 12:56

Let's hope it's a long, and very painful illness...

Sadly not. He’s just feeling ever so poorly woorly because the loser hasn’t eaten for 10 days - ie he’s a liar and a coward.

murasaki · 23/01/2025 12:59

Just in comparison to this cowardly piece of shit, it's worth remembering again how brave the teachers were, and the guy who came to help.

Cyclebabble · 23/01/2025 12:59

I have family who work in the prison service. His time inside will be hell. He deserves everything coming to him.

EasternStandard · 23/01/2025 13:01

It's so bloody harrowing, I'm a mess. The poor families it must be hellish

What an absolutely evil coward

wizzywig · 23/01/2025 13:01

@BlazenWeights I think his dad stopped him from doing a killing the week earlier. I can't remember if they had asked for help. 3 referrals and assessments under Prevent. It's a matter of time before it happens again
Those poor parents and those innocent children . My heart goes out to them.

CiderandPosies · 23/01/2025 13:02

He's saying he's ill because he doesn't want to listen to the details of what he's done.

PassingStranger · 23/01/2025 13:03

ChristmasPudd1990 · 23/01/2025 12:57

No. I want him to suffer for every single second of his vile life.

Would you like to be the one looking after him everyday?

Projectme · 23/01/2025 13:03

"Stan Reiz KC, Rudakubana's lawyer, tells the court that those at prison were concerned about his wellbeing last night - and that the defendant hasn’t eaten or drunk for some time."

I'm sorry? What? 'concerned about his wellbeing'?!?! wtaf. How fucking insensitive to say that in court!!

ManchesterPie · 23/01/2025 13:04

Copernicus321 · 23/01/2025 12:20

He's trying to get committed to a secure hospital rather than an ordinary prison. Secure hosipitals are safer for inmates such as he, not by much but he knows that he won't be safe in an ordinary prison even under rule 43 segregation.

It's not an easy life in a secure hospital. I used to work in a couple and we generally kept patients much longer than the sentence. I remember being involved in discharging one guy who was a rapist and would have served around 13yrs in prison. Because he came to us, he was in for 42 years and only released as he physically wasn't capable of reoffending again.

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