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AIBU to feel completely distressed by the viral video of the aftermath of onlyfans worker Lily P 'sleeping with' 100 men?

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 09:48

I've tried to word this carefully.

Lily, an onlyfans star, aged 20something I'm guessing, slept with 100 men in one go, as part of a documentary.

Following this, she's on camera crying. She says her eyes hurt as some of the men ejaculated in them, despite her saying no.

My heart is broken for this girl. Im a feminist but I've never thought of sex work as being empowering?

Surely, the empowerment of sex work has failed this poor girl? And surely the 100 men who agreed to do this are criminals???

I'm so angry. You could see in the video that Lily is realising what a mistake this was and is very traumatised.

Anyway, didn't see a thread on this so thought I'd post. My heart goes out to her, and my brain feels very angry at those who failed to protect her.

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RunningJo · 11/12/2024 10:50

I have seen this, the video is awful. I feel sorry for her based on seeing the clip, but then I also think she is a complete idiot. She is an adult and should know better & should want more for herself than to be famous for sleeping with so many idiots.
Her parents must be so proud. 🙄
This is going to have an impact on the rest of her life & will be around forever. Such an incredibly stupid thing to do for 'fame'

Margorett · 11/12/2024 10:50

Why feel sorry for her ! She is disgusting, and yes so are the men.

holju · 11/12/2024 10:50

MurdoMunro · 11/12/2024 10:10

Is the display of her trauma part of the business model here? Trying very hard to keep my tone neutral here. But is this something now to be sold to men who get off on abusing women?

This is my first thought too. It's all part of a cynical attempt to get publicity.

Greeneyegirl · 11/12/2024 10:52

It wasn't for a documentary. She was doing it for her only fans account. Someone made a documentary after she had announced she was going to do it.

Thunderpants88 · 11/12/2024 10:53

Zero sympathy here. She’s fame hungry and pathetic

MimiGC · 11/12/2024 10:53

Capercaille · 11/12/2024 10:30

Her mother must be so proud.

Seriously though, the only thing I am concerned with is her mental state.

I read that her mother is part of her 'support' team and does the accounts for the vast amount of money she is making. So instead of trying to talk her out of it, her mother seems complicit. How very sad.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 11/12/2024 10:53

Blackdovedown · 11/12/2024 10:45

Honestly? I think she needs to be sectioned for her own safety. Her mental health is clearly out the window, and this is extreme self harming.

Having been in a psychiatric unit this summer (not common for me!) and also sectioned briefly I think this would be the best outcome for her. She isn’t mentally well.

Dotjones · 11/12/2024 10:54

It's all part of her act I imagine - she willingly set up the whole arrangement and the crying angle is a way of attracting more attention to her account. More attention, more subscribers.

IkeaJesusChrist · 11/12/2024 10:55

Zero sympathy, she knew what she was getting into.

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 10:58

NonPlayerCharacter · 11/12/2024 10:48

All the men involved are absolute shits and the fact that several of them went against her limits is proof that it's not hard to find men who will do what they want if they think they'll get away with it, and I guess they think that since she was willing to have sex with 100 men in a day, she won't be able to claim she didn't consent to everything they wanted to do. They probably think she really didn't have the right to say no to certain acts if she was going to say yes to sex with 100 men. Absolute shits, every last one of them. Alongside the Gisele Pelicot case, it's damning and horrifying.

And yet misogyny and woman blaming remain.

This is entirely different to what Gisele Pelicot is going through and to try and compare them is offensive. Lily consented to this, even when her limits were pushed she carried on, to make money. This is all part of it.

Gisele was betrayed and drugged.

Ablondiebutagoody · 11/12/2024 10:58

GettingStuffed · 11/12/2024 10:39

Slightly off topic but to shag 1000 men in 24 hours is around 8.5 sec per man and that's not including loo breaks or sleep

86.4 seconds

anxioussister · 11/12/2024 10:59

I think one of the saddest things about the way society is set up is that women feel like sex work can be empowering - because it (can, for some women) feel like admiration / popularity / desirability.

The problem is, that however you want to argue it, there is a supply and demand issue for sex (generally men want it, women are often the gate keepers)

Women confuse the demand for them as a sexual partner with the demand for them as a life partner and then there’s a horrible realisation when the two don’t match up. The aftermath of sex where one has felt very desired with the cold reality that your company, maybe is not.

Of course there are plenty of circumstances where women just want no strings sex - and it can be perfectly rewarding for both parties. But this woman’s search for notoriety / fame / adulation ultimately is her trying to remedy a gap where she hasn’t felt loved + important - so the crashing sense that ‘actually that doesn’t serve me at all’ is going to feel awful.

I feel horrible for her - she needs to work out what the hole is in her heart that she’s trying to fill - and seek out ways of doing it that don’t harm her.

Moonmelodies · 11/12/2024 10:59

Maybe for her next stunt she will wear safety specs.

NonPlayerCharacter · 11/12/2024 11:00

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 10:58

This is entirely different to what Gisele Pelicot is going through and to try and compare them is offensive. Lily consented to this, even when her limits were pushed she carried on, to make money. This is all part of it.

Gisele was betrayed and drugged.

They're both signs of how easy it is to find men who will use and abuse women if they think they'll get away with it for any reason.

And I don't like your implicit blaming of her for carrying on after she'd been abused.

Nogaxeh · 11/12/2024 11:01

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 10:07

@whathappensnowplease you're right, the sort of men who would want to take part in this sort of stunt aren't going to be good guys. Those men seem to be readily available though, while the women willing to do these things are still few and far between.

You're first response was to look squarely at the woman though. This isn't a criticism of you personally, if you look through previous threads about this woman or other similar stunts you see a massive focus on her and no real discussion about the men.

There was 1 woman in this situation and 100 men who continued to engage in sex with a woman who was visibly distressed. I know someone will be along soon to say NAMALT but there needs to be more discussion about the men in these situations. What has happened to all of these men that they don't want or need ENTHUSIASTIC consent to engage in any sort of sexual activity?

I agree with this. People make the wrong choices and make mistakes and get hurt and I don't think we should have a go at them too much. But when prime maker the wrong choices and hurt other people then I think that's more deserving of censure.

SabreIsMyFave · 11/12/2024 11:01

TheSilkWorm · 11/12/2024 09:57

Of course 'sex work' isn't empowering and it's exploitation, not work. And yes the men who violated her consent are criminals. However most of them aren't. She consented to this action and consented to the vast majority of the sexual acts. It's bizarre, self harming behaviour done to seek notoriety and fame.

This. ^

It's all disgusting and grim though. Imagine if that was your daughter. Horrific way to make a 'living.' I would be devastated at how spectacularly I had failed as a parent if either of my daughters felt they had to do this.

And the men are pure fucking scum. I hope their dicks drop off.

I agree that there is nothing 'empowering' about it. What on earth is 'empowering' about fucking 100s of men?! Confused The more people any given person fucks, the less respect I have for them to be honest. (Woman OR man.) You get men sometimes bragging about having fucked 500, 600, or even a 1000 women, and I just think 'gross! 😖I bet he has a rancid dick.'

I wouldn't touch any man with a barge pole who claimed to have fucked 100s of women. It's not big or clever; even the dumbest animals can shag! It doesn't make you special or clever, and it certainly doesn't mean you're super attractive.

Monwmum · 11/12/2024 11:02

ElatedShark · 11/12/2024 10:08

If you think the Internet and social media has done anything to the human race that hadn't already existed, I have a bridge to sell you.

All it's done is make it easier for degenerates to indulge.

That's exactly what I hate about it. It is much easier to access hardcore porn at a young age and helps weirdos to find encourage eachother...so yes I think it has made things worse in that regard

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 11:03

My point isn't necessarily that these women deserve our sympathy. I think something has gone very wrong somewhere if this is looking like a good idea to anyone, male or female.

I haven't seen the news items that you mention but again, I would say that the shift of blame towards any female in the vicinity is very telling. You describe a very young male, potentially a dad / uncle and a woman who is orchestrating the situation but blame is being shifted to people who were not present or consulted.

The issue is clearly much bigger than any individual so to single anyone out for blame is a waste of time. We should be looking at the systems in play that make these actions seem OK to individuals.

Capercaille · 11/12/2024 11:04

MimiGC · 11/12/2024 10:53

I read that her mother is part of her 'support' team and does the accounts for the vast amount of money she is making. So instead of trying to talk her out of it, her mother seems complicit. How very sad.

How very sad. I would suggest that her mother get help for her mental state as well.

Nogaxeh · 11/12/2024 11:05

Ablondiebutagoody · 11/12/2024 10:58

86.4 seconds

I've read about some previous record attempt like this and it involves a whole series of other women to act as "fluffers" so the men would be ready for the act itself straight away when it was their turn. All absolutely grim.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 11:06

MimiGC · 11/12/2024 10:53

I read that her mother is part of her 'support' team and does the accounts for the vast amount of money she is making. So instead of trying to talk her out of it, her mother seems complicit. How very sad.

I hesitate to lay the blame at a woman's door but what kind of mother is this?!?

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PinkLionFind · 11/12/2024 11:06

I do actually have sympathy for her, it is disgusting and invasive.

She and the other women doing this have sold their soul though.

No decent man is going to be up for doing these 24 hour shagathons, they are all going to be women hating arseholes that get involved.

I do also think that it is disrespectful to women who are trafficked of have no choice but to go into sex work.

TENSsion · 11/12/2024 11:06

Nogaxeh · 11/12/2024 11:05

I've read about some previous record attempt like this and it involves a whole series of other women to act as "fluffers" so the men would be ready for the act itself straight away when it was their turn. All absolutely grim.

Do the men have to orgasm for it to “count as sex”?

I assume there is no requirement for her to orgasm.

BMW6 · 11/12/2024 11:07

I think she's as bad as the men frankly.

Nogaxeh · 11/12/2024 11:09

TENSsion · 11/12/2024 11:06

Do the men have to orgasm for it to “count as sex”?

I assume there is no requirement for her to orgasm.

How many of them will be happy to walk away without doing so?

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