imane khelif has been allegedly confirmed to be a man.

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A leaked French medical report from 2023 has confirmed that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is male.

Top endocrinologists found that Khelif has XY chromosomes, no uterus, internal testicles, and a "micropenis."

The report was drafted in June of 2023 via a collaboration between the Kremlin-Bicêtre hospital in Paris, France, and the Mohamed Lamine Debaghine hospital in Algiers, Algeria. Drafted by expert endocrinologists Soumaya Fedala and Jacques Young, the report reveals that Khelif is impacted by 5-alpha reductase deficiency, a disorder of sexual development that is only found in biological males.

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It was sickening to watch and the commentary especially in the final was so uncomfortable. They knew and they were tying themselves into knots to appease their conscience about what they were condoning.

And by that female gait is still female gait and their skeletal proportions are still female and hips and q-angles etc.

I spent a largely happy summer this year in a city with a great many trans people and the transmen were very obvious to me. Facial hair and clothing did nothing to disguise lack of height, small hands and feet, facial bone structure, fat distribution of buttocks and hips, and as you say gait.
Unfortunately quite a high percentage also had noticeable self harm scarring on their arms.

For goodness sake! If you ‘don’t trust your eyes’ then you really have been gaslight in to oblivion.

I think some could do with a reread of 1984. Freedom is slavery, war is peace, men are women.

I spotted a transwoman from behind at a distance in a group of women walking down the street . They were all wearing the same skirt as part of a work uniform. His gait, his body shape totally gave it away.

I see beautiful feminine men but they are men, no matter how feminine. Is that not so?

Again, absolutely they are. And in the 80s/90s this wasn't controversial.

You can see a feminine man, or masculine woman and still know what sex they are, humans are good at determining what we see, especially women, it's what keeps us safe from predators(men) so I trust my eyes and what I saw then and what I see now is still a man.

Considering it was Reduxx that broke the story back in August that forced two boxing organisations to confirm that two male boxers had failed sex testing and had still been allowed to box in the Olympics, I am not sure why you feel they are unreliable. Plus we ended up with Georges Cazorla leaking more information that has then resulted in this further leak.

And finally forced the IOC to make several public statements that actually never once disproved what Reduxx reported, I am not sure why you think that Reduxx are not credible. Or is it just that you want them to be not credible.

Would you like to post any other article from Reduxx that you can prove is false? Show us their false reporting from the past?

Or is it that you don’t know Reduxx? Is that it?

There is a young male that lives close by and I see that male walking in a group of older teens. Even dressed very similar to the female people with skirts and jumpers, you can tell from a distance because of gait and upper body movement.

Reduxx does openly have an agenda. I’m not pro males in women’s boxing but I’d like confirmation of the source of this

Ah yes Reduxx dot info. Noted news source. Honestly, people need to be looking at where they get their news from.

I am absolutely sure that if a mainstream media outlet e.g. the Telegraph ran with this, then it would be similarly dismissed as having an agenda and therefore not to be trusted. Because you know, right wing, bigoted.

Equally if it appeared in the DM.

I'm not saying I'm a fan or a reader of those publications. However the "black is white, up is down" people would find a reason.

People seem to think I believe men can be women and vice versa but I don’t. My argument is solely that you can’t always
tell and acting like you can
always tell is harmful. Maybe 99.99% of the time you can but with the number of people in the world that still an awful lot. And the Olympics brings out the extraordinary which makes it even more difficult. So for me the only fair way to determine is testing, not “well he looks/moves/punches like a man to me!” which seems to be enough for most on the thread.

Mike Tyson could bag himself a special F passport and head to the Women's Olympic boxing and there would still be people insisting you can't tell he's a man because something...something...Serena Williams...something.

It's just idiocy at this point.

You don't trust YOUR eyes however the rest of us trust our own eyes. Just because you can't see, hear, smell or whatever doesn't mean the rest of us can't. Most of us can tell who is a man or not at a distance (such as in a wood as pp) and I feel sorry for you if you aren't able to do this. Most of us (the female sex class) rely on this ability to keep ourselves safe.

So for me the only fair way to determine is testing

It's your lucky day!

You're ignoring all the other supporting evidence that posters including me have painstakingly pointed out including the IBA statement on IK that was put out at the time of the competition.

Some of you are so sure of yourselves. For the most part I think you can tell the difference between the sexes. Just occasionally though I think it is far more ambiguous and there are some people who can pass as the opposite sex successfully. Unless you already know they are a trans-person you might meet them and never even suspect them of being anything other than how they present themselves.

Regardless of how well passing a minority may be, nobody male belongs in women's sport.

And fwiw, the only trans people who I would struggle to identify, are all trans identified females.

Not males.

It really is, it's scrambling my brain!

For the sake of argument let's say that's true.

Khelif is not one of those people.

Just occasionally though I think it is far more ambiguous and there are some people who can pass as the opposite sex successfully.

The very concept of passing means they aren't what they "pass" as.

Lucky we have sex testing, hm?

Literally never met one trans person who passes. Especially not MtF.

Many left leaning publications have a much, much more significant agenda than Reduxx. Yet that isn't an issue for you presumably.

Do you believe The Guardian when they tell you Khelif is a woman?

No. I don’t but I’d like the source verified

Honestly, if this singer Ace form the voice is actually a man, then I no longer trust my eyes because he looks and sounds like a woman to me