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imane khelif has been allegedly confirmed to be a man.

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Cartwrightandson · 04/11/2024 13:15

A leaked French medical report from 2023 has confirmed that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is male.

Top endocrinologists found that Khelif has XY chromosomes, no uterus, internal testicles, and a "micropenis."

The report was drafted in June of 2023 via a collaboration between the Kremlin-Bicêtre hospital in Paris, France, and the Mohamed Lamine Debaghine hospital in Algiers, Algeria. Drafted by expert endocrinologists Soumaya Fedala and Jacques Young, the report reveals that Khelif is impacted by 5-alpha reductase deficiency, a disorder of sexual development that is only found in biological males.

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OneBadKitty · 04/11/2024 16:50

The fact that he has not developed breasts, has no periods, and has a small penis might just have given him and his doctors a little clue that he was indeed genetically male.

Anyone who thinks he just 'coincidently' got into boxing as a woman and not because he was sought out because of his condition and false female status to compete and win against women must very naive indeed!

No doubt he has made a lot of money.

SassK · 04/11/2024 16:51

Stretchedresources · 04/11/2024 16:37

Serena Williams does not look manly FFS. Far from it.

Exactly. She's got curves for days!

DanielaDressen · 04/11/2024 16:52

Hopefully he’s stripped of his Olympic medal now.

NonPlayerCharacter · 04/11/2024 16:52

Veryoldandtired · 04/11/2024 16:48

The source claims to be pro women. Tearing a woman (unless proven otherwise) down without any solid proof based on hearsay (which originated from remarks made by Russian boxing chair, hmmm. Not like Russians have some vested interest in Olympic committee failures, right?!)… I mean … it all screams sensationalism doesn’t it?

here’s a good source
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/trump-social-media-posts-mislead-on-olympic-woman-boxer/
here’s another one
https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/olympics/news/imane-khelif-gender-eligibility-test-ioc-iba-championship/f36302ed5889c11046e5c704

unless otherwise proven it’s just cruel to speculate and sensationalise this topic.

The source claims to be pro women.

It's not pro the women with balls and cocks, you see.

Veryoldandtired · 04/11/2024 16:53

TiredEyesSoreHeart · 04/11/2024 16:49

It's been proven already! His own trainer has admitted he's male!

Where though? Please can I see a reliable source and I will take my words back.

Helleofabore · 04/11/2024 16:53

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:35

I don’t think there has been any actual evidence IK is a man just a lot of speculation based on her physical appearance and because she doesn’t behave like a Muslim woman should. Without evidence it is just bullying. Serena Williams also imo look quite manly but is a woman.

Care to tell why Dr. Ioannis Filippatos (Surgeon, Sport Medicine Doctor, and Ob/Gyn Specialist) is not to be trusted as having faithfully reported the truth?

We have two tests from different independent labs in different countries producing results saying that these athletes have XY chromosomes as per Dr. Ioannis Filippatos (Surgeon, Sport Medicine Doctor, and Ob/Gyn Specialist).

Confirmed by IBA, WBO and EBC.

We have the French endocrinologist saying “ despite of her karyotype and her testosterone levels. He said : “There is a problem with her hormones, and with her chromosomes, but she's a woman.”

In fact, we have someone reporting on the results of those tests from Paris now as per below.

And then we have an Algeria doctor who monitored the testosterone suppression. “We then worked with an Algeria-based doctor to control and regulate Imane's testosterone levels, which are currently in the female range.

NO FEMALE PERSON HAS TO REDUCE THEIR TESTOSTERONE (AS PER THE POST UPTHREAD) TO COMPETE AGAINST FEMALE PEOPLE. The very fact that Khelif's team is reporting this telling the world that Khelif was MALE!

Can you tell us whether you will continue to disbelieve the evidence trail unless Khelif releases the information specifically? Or is there enough doubt for you to consider that Khelif is a male with all the signs of their body's virilisation. And I mean virilisation and not just clothes and looks. Such as gait, hip alignment with q angles, the skeletal proportions etc.

Here is the leak about the Paris tests:

https://archive.ph/sPWL9

The Correspondent has poked his nose into the boxer's medical file - the same file that the Algerian Boxing Federation and Imane Khelif are keeping safe. It comes from the tightly closed drawers of two renowned hospitals: the Kremlin Bicêtre hospital in Paris and the Mohamed Lamine Debaghine hospital in Algiers. Where the champion is followed by the crème de la crème of endocrinology: Professors and heads of department, Soumaya Fedala and Jacques Young.

In their report, submitted in June 2023, the two doctors, Young and Fedala, point out, without beating around the bush, Imane Khelif's pathology, an “Alpha 5 reductase type 2” deficiency, a genetic anomaly which leads to metabolic dysfunction in testosterone and dehydroandrosterone”.

and

Results? The “pelvic MRI” shows “ an absence of a uterus” , the presence of “gonads in the inguinal canals” ( testicles in her abdomen, editor’s note) , “a blind vagina” and a micro-penis in the form of “clitoral hypertrophy ”.

Array Comparative Genomic Hybridization (aCGH) analyses show that she carries the “46XY” karyotype… and confirms “the male formula”, without highlighting “ a significant genomic imbalance”.

The “ hormonal exploration ” reveals a “male type testosterone level of 14.7”, while the female gender does not exceed the maximum level of 3.

In short, Imane Khelif is a man in a woman's shell. Or a woman in a man's shell. In any case, not a "normal" girl...

C8H10N4O2 · 04/11/2024 16:53

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:35

I don’t think there has been any actual evidence IK is a man just a lot of speculation based on her physical appearance and because she doesn’t behave like a Muslim woman should. Without evidence it is just bullying. Serena Williams also imo look quite manly but is a woman.

The only people I've ever heard describe Serena as "manly" have all been white dudes whose actual knowledge of the range of black female body types comes mostly from porn sites.

Pretty much everyone else has no difficulty.

TheKeatingFive · 04/11/2024 16:54

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:35

I don’t think there has been any actual evidence IK is a man just a lot of speculation based on her physical appearance and because she doesn’t behave like a Muslim woman should. Without evidence it is just bullying. Serena Williams also imo look quite manly but is a woman.

Oh please. 2 tests by the IBA. Which were failed. No appeal. No further tests taken to establish female biology.

OneBadKitty · 04/11/2024 16:54

Serena Williams looks nothing like a man!

thatsmypotato · 04/11/2024 16:54

OneBadKitty · 04/11/2024 16:54

Serena Williams looks nothing like a man!

Omg who is dragging Serena into this??

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:54

My point is Serena is a women that imo looks manly because she has a really big muscular body that is very unusual on a woman . IK also has a big muscular body and looks very manly because of it. I don’t think there has been any credible evidence to date that IK is a man.

hihelenhi · 04/11/2024 16:55

It's not based on "social media hearsay". There were multiple reports, including outside the Russian boxing federation (and even they, according to a respected US sports journalist, showed him two separate reports from independent labs. The "Russians doing it because of their own fighters" theory has long been debunked you know). There's also the interview with Khelif's own trainer which states he has a male karyotype.

I see the bias and panicked defence of a cheating man beating up women in the boxing ring has started. You lot are getting desperate now.

The whole thing could, of course, be cleared up VERY simply with a cheek swab. Which Khelif won't take because he knows damn well it will show he is male. He has, as suspected and as is the case with Caster Semanya, DSD 5-ARD.

WearyAuldWumman · 04/11/2024 16:56

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:54

My point is Serena is a women that imo looks manly because she has a really big muscular body that is very unusual on a woman . IK also has a big muscular body and looks very manly because of it. I don’t think there has been any credible evidence to date that IK is a man.

You mean...apart from his coach's admission that there's a "chromosome problem" and elevated testosterone?

TheKeatingFive · 04/11/2024 16:56

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:54

My point is Serena is a women that imo looks manly because she has a really big muscular body that is very unusual on a woman . IK also has a big muscular body and looks very manly because of it. I don’t think there has been any credible evidence to date that IK is a man.

IK failed two female eligibility tests. Nothing even remotely similar has ever happened with Serena.

TipsyLemonCritic · 04/11/2024 16:57

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:54

My point is Serena is a women that imo looks manly because she has a really big muscular body that is very unusual on a woman . IK also has a big muscular body and looks very manly because of it. I don’t think there has been any credible evidence to date that IK is a man.

Here we go again, dragging black women minding their own business and into things they’re not involved in, again.

Stop with the racist shit and focus on who the thread is about.

ChishiyaBat · 04/11/2024 16:57

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:35

I don’t think there has been any actual evidence IK is a man just a lot of speculation based on her physical appearance and because she doesn’t behave like a Muslim woman should. Without evidence it is just bullying. Serena Williams also imo look quite manly but is a woman.

Have you read any of this thread or did you just want to slag off Serena Williams for her looks?

NonPlayerCharacter · 04/11/2024 16:57

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:54

My point is Serena is a women that imo looks manly because she has a really big muscular body that is very unusual on a woman . IK also has a big muscular body and looks very manly because of it. I don’t think there has been any credible evidence to date that IK is a man.

It doesn't matter. She's a woman and would pass a sex test. Khelif isn't and wouldn't, as two failed tests prove (one that he himself commissioned). You don't think that's credible but you think he's a woman because Serena Williams is very muscular, so...so what?

CountZacular · 04/11/2024 16:58

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:54

My point is Serena is a women that imo looks manly because she has a really big muscular body that is very unusual on a woman . IK also has a big muscular body and looks very manly because of it. I don’t think there has been any credible evidence to date that IK is a man.

Trying to use Serena Williams as a gotcha (a shit one, too, as she clearly does look a like a woman) just make you look like a racist twit.

hihelenhi · 04/11/2024 16:58

WearyAuldWumman · 04/11/2024 16:56

You mean...apart from his coach's admission that there's a "chromosome problem" and elevated testosterone?

Yes, I wonder what his coach's evil possible motivation was in letting that slip while defending his right to fight as a woman. Was he in league with the similarly evil Russian IBA in a cunning double cross?

Please.

MinnieCauldwell · 04/11/2024 17:00

CountZacular · 04/11/2024 16:58

Trying to use Serena Williams as a gotcha (a shit one, too, as she clearly does look a like a woman) just make you look like a racist twit.

Well said Count, Serena has also birthed at least one child, not domething IK is doing anytime soon.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 04/11/2024 17:00

Veryoldandtired · 04/11/2024 16:48

The source claims to be pro women. Tearing a woman (unless proven otherwise) down without any solid proof based on hearsay (which originated from remarks made by Russian boxing chair, hmmm. Not like Russians have some vested interest in Olympic committee failures, right?!)… I mean … it all screams sensationalism doesn’t it?

here’s a good source
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/trump-social-media-posts-mislead-on-olympic-woman-boxer/
here’s another one
https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/olympics/news/imane-khelif-gender-eligibility-test-ioc-iba-championship/f36302ed5889c11046e5c704

unless otherwise proven it’s just cruel to speculate and sensationalise this topic.

Good articles?! Lol no. The facthecker one gives the opinion that it's incorrect to call Imane a man, but provides no proof of this. They even say themselves it's unclear whether IK has XY chromosomes. Which is debatable anyway, but taking that claim at highest, it can't be a fact that it's incorrect to refer to IK as a man. It would be unknown. They also refer to the 2023 test as a gender eligibility test, which isn't what it actually is because how would a physical test measure gender? Sex and gender are different things.

Really, if you're going to claim that an organisation has a vested interest because it's got a Russian on it, you need to be less uncritical in the bias you swallow from articles.

C8H10N4O2 · 04/11/2024 17:00

MidnightPatrol · 04/11/2024 13:35

I think it’s probably even more complicated for them.

They grew up in real poverty, in an isolated area, traditional community, religious etc.

And - their boxing was their way out of that poverty I suppose.

Complicated factors for them personally beyond whether or not they should have been allowed to compete.

Its still cheating and he will have cheated poor brown women from those communities in order to take their place. Where is their opportunity now?

Sport historically has provided poorer boys and girls, young men and women with an opportunity to get education, a career and a better life. Boxing in particular has done this historically but with the scholarships and sponsorship available its no wonder that youngsters train and work their socks off for that golden ticket to a better life. Only to find its stolen from them by male advantaged athlete of less talent.

One of the most egregious examples of this was the male bodied wealthy white nepo babe who took an Olympic team place from a brown woman from a poor community and then didn't even try at the event. His self indulgent gesture took her opportunity.

So "complicated" doesn't cut it.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 04/11/2024 17:01

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:54

My point is Serena is a women that imo looks manly because she has a really big muscular body that is very unusual on a woman . IK also has a big muscular body and looks very manly because of it. I don’t think there has been any credible evidence to date that IK is a man.

If you think Serena looks like a man, there's something very wrong with you.

headstone · 04/11/2024 17:03

Well I think there might be a little bit of racism in this IK saga, unless it’s proven she is actually man, certainly I’ve heard some awful things said about her country which most people couldn’t even find on a map. I also thought Lady Di looked a bit manly , I know that might upset even more people!

TheKeatingFive · 04/11/2024 17:04

headstone · 04/11/2024 17:03

Well I think there might be a little bit of racism in this IK saga, unless it’s proven she is actually man, certainly I’ve heard some awful things said about her country which most people couldn’t even find on a map. I also thought Lady Di looked a bit manly , I know that might upset even more people!

What? 🫠🫠🫠