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imane khelif has been allegedly confirmed to be a man.

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Cartwrightandson · 04/11/2024 13:15

A leaked French medical report from 2023 has confirmed that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is male.

Top endocrinologists found that Khelif has XY chromosomes, no uterus, internal testicles, and a "micropenis."

The report was drafted in June of 2023 via a collaboration between the Kremlin-Bicêtre hospital in Paris, France, and the Mohamed Lamine Debaghine hospital in Algiers, Algeria. Drafted by expert endocrinologists Soumaya Fedala and Jacques Young, the report reveals that Khelif is impacted by 5-alpha reductase deficiency, a disorder of sexual development that is only found in biological males.

reduxx.info/algerian-boxer-imane-khelif-has-xy-chromosomes-and-testicles-french-algerian-medical-report-admits/

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GreyRockinRock · 04/11/2024 16:31

The size of HIS penis and where HIS testicles are would not be public knowledge had HE chosen to admit HE was MALE before accepting a place on a WOMENS boxing team.
The only reason HE got away with it was HIS passport has HIM assigned as F.
Surely now this is no longer a fact HE should no longer be allowed to complete against WOMEN.
I am speculating that HE would not have won a place on MALE team......
Unfortunately I can see no justice for the WOMEN forced into that situation and that makes me really fucking angry 😤

Veryoldandtired · 04/11/2024 16:31

Any reliable information sources?

Namechangeforadhd · 04/11/2024 16:31

In terms of whether Redduxx is a proper source or 'mainstream' : without wanting the labour the point, the issue is that we live in a patriarchy and have for millenia. So just as males, at population level, are bigger and stronger than females, males are also, at population level, more powerful socially, politically and economically than females.
Just as with physical attributes, this general population-level statement is not weakened by the fact that some individual females are more socially, politically or economically powerful than some individual males.
It does mean though that where the patriarchy is fundamentally in charge of governments, media, corporations etc, being 'mainstream' isn't necessarily a strength when it comes to speaking truth to power.

WearyAuldWumman · 04/11/2024 16:33

Veryoldandtired · 04/11/2024 16:31

Any reliable information sources?

It's also appeared in a French publication, but not in a major journal.

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:35

I don’t think there has been any actual evidence IK is a man just a lot of speculation based on her physical appearance and because she doesn’t behave like a Muslim woman should. Without evidence it is just bullying. Serena Williams also imo look quite manly but is a woman.

Stretchedresources · 04/11/2024 16:35

LBFseBrom · 04/11/2024 14:05

Poor soul. Imagine having all that personal stuff (internal testes, micropenis), being made public.

Imagine knowing all this and cheating to hit women.

My sympathy is with the women he hit, stole a place from and stole medals from.

NonPlayerCharacter · 04/11/2024 16:36

Veryoldandtired · 04/11/2024 16:31

Any reliable information sources?

There has been so much of this all over many media for a long time and Khelif could disprove it all with a quick cheek swab and releasing the results.

What source would you accept?

Stretchedresources · 04/11/2024 16:37

Serena Williams does not look manly FFS. Far from it.

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:39

She does imo as does Miranda hart, but that is just my subjective opinion and isn’t meant to be an insult, some women just do look manly.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 04/11/2024 16:39

Stretchedresources · 04/11/2024 16:37

Serena Williams does not look manly FFS. Far from it.

Yes, what the actual fuck?

Soontobe60 · 04/11/2024 16:39

WetBandits · 04/11/2024 13:30

I still don’t agree with the witch hunt. If Khelif reasonably believed themselves to be female and had been brought up as female since birth without knowing about the chromosomal disorder, they were not acting as a man boxing against women. Intent counts here, I think.

If they knew and still competed, that is a different story.

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Of course he knew. He knew as soon as he realised he wasn’t having periods. He knew when the talent scouts who look for males exactly like him (with DSDs) spotted him. He knew when the multiple physical examinations including blood tests would have been carried out by his team of coaches, physios and medics on his journey to becoming the first ‘female’ Olympic boxing medal winner. He knew when he was told to keep it a secret because if he did so and managed to get away with it his life, and that of his family, would change immeasurably due to the wealth that would be bestowed on them.
He knew.

NonPlayerCharacter · 04/11/2024 16:42

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:35

I don’t think there has been any actual evidence IK is a man just a lot of speculation based on her physical appearance and because she doesn’t behave like a Muslim woman should. Without evidence it is just bullying. Serena Williams also imo look quite manly but is a woman.

He failed a sex test and has not appealed it (or he tried then dropped it when he got his independent results back; I forget which was which between him and the man who won silver.). His former trainers have spoken about how he was a danger to women and recognised he is male. He has been hugged by and carried on the shoulders of men, not something conservative Algerian women tend to get away with.

If you had your career and personal integrity riding on you being a woman, and releasing results of a cheek swab was all you needed to do to prove you are one, why on earth wouldn't you? Almost everyone's sex is obvious at first sight and it matters when you enter female spaces. Why is it suddenly so personal now?

JaneJeffer · 04/11/2024 16:43

A leaked French medical report from 2023 has confirmed that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is male.

We don't need to see a report to know he's a man.

Namechangeforadhd · 04/11/2024 16:44

Serena Williams is actually a really good example of two things: 1. that even extraordinary females at the absolute top of their physical game and with an extraordinary physique can't compete with the equivalent males in their sport. She has always been open about the fact that the top 100 or so male tennis players could beat her. 2. that however extraordinary a female is within the female sex class, she is by no means necessarily 'manly'. Khelif is 'manly' because he's male, and millenia of reproducing, and of attempting to avoid danger such as rape has made females very adept at recognising males. Serena isn't 'manly' at all. She is very big for a female, very muscular and very strong. She is also quite clearly female.

NonPlayerCharacter · 04/11/2024 16:44

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:39

She does imo as does Miranda hart, but that is just my subjective opinion and isn’t meant to be an insult, some women just do look manly.

Ok, she looks manly. (She doesn't, at all, but let's pretend that she does.)

She's still a woman and she'd easily pass a sex test to prove it.

So what's your point?

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 04/11/2024 16:45

wombat15 · 04/11/2024 14:42

Do you think imane khelif is anywhere near as strong as the male elite boxers?

No.

But the vast majority of males are not as strong as male elite boxers. So how is that relevant?

TipsyLemonCritic · 04/11/2024 16:46

headstone · 04/11/2024 16:35

I don’t think there has been any actual evidence IK is a man just a lot of speculation based on her physical appearance and because she doesn’t behave like a Muslim woman should. Without evidence it is just bullying. Serena Williams also imo look quite manly but is a woman.

I swear people love bringing black women that aren’t involved and minding their own business into things. Serena does not look manly and this thread is not about her.

wordler · 04/11/2024 16:46

How do we get cheek swabs back as standard practice before the next Olympic Games?

Veryoldandtired · 04/11/2024 16:48

Namechangeforadhd · 04/11/2024 16:31

In terms of whether Redduxx is a proper source or 'mainstream' : without wanting the labour the point, the issue is that we live in a patriarchy and have for millenia. So just as males, at population level, are bigger and stronger than females, males are also, at population level, more powerful socially, politically and economically than females.
Just as with physical attributes, this general population-level statement is not weakened by the fact that some individual females are more socially, politically or economically powerful than some individual males.
It does mean though that where the patriarchy is fundamentally in charge of governments, media, corporations etc, being 'mainstream' isn't necessarily a strength when it comes to speaking truth to power.

The source claims to be pro women. Tearing a woman (unless proven otherwise) down without any solid proof based on hearsay (which originated from remarks made by Russian boxing chair, hmmm. Not like Russians have some vested interest in Olympic committee failures, right?!)… I mean … it all screams sensationalism doesn’t it?

here’s a good source
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/trump-social-media-posts-mislead-on-olympic-woman-boxer/
here’s another one
https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/olympics/news/imane-khelif-gender-eligibility-test-ioc-iba-championship/f36302ed5889c11046e5c704

unless otherwise proven it’s just cruel to speculate and sensationalise this topic.

Trump, Social Media Posts Mislead on Olympic Woman Boxer - FactCheck.org

Former President Donald Trump falsely claimed Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is “a person who transitioned” and “was a good male boxer.” Khelif was born a woman and has lived as a woman, participating in women’s boxing events for years. Many social media...

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/trump-social-media-posts-mislead-on-olympic-woman-boxer

lifeturnsonadime · 04/11/2024 16:48

Black women are manly is the usual racist shite that get's wheeled out time after time on threads about cheating men.

TiredEyesSoreHeart · 04/11/2024 16:49

Veryoldandtired · 04/11/2024 16:48

The source claims to be pro women. Tearing a woman (unless proven otherwise) down without any solid proof based on hearsay (which originated from remarks made by Russian boxing chair, hmmm. Not like Russians have some vested interest in Olympic committee failures, right?!)… I mean … it all screams sensationalism doesn’t it?

here’s a good source
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/trump-social-media-posts-mislead-on-olympic-woman-boxer/
here’s another one
https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/olympics/news/imane-khelif-gender-eligibility-test-ioc-iba-championship/f36302ed5889c11046e5c704

unless otherwise proven it’s just cruel to speculate and sensationalise this topic.

It's been proven already! His own trainer has admitted he's male!

NonPlayerCharacter · 04/11/2024 16:50

wordler · 04/11/2024 16:46

How do we get cheek swabs back as standard practice before the next Olympic Games?

We let them know that that's all that a sex test requires, since a common slur against anyone who thinks women deserve protected spaces is that they're "obsessed with genitals".

Then we persuade people that female safety and equality matter more than upholding male delusions, and they're not actually the good guys for supporting men punching women and taking their opportunities and awards when they could just compete in their own sex class and sink or swim based on that.

It's going to take a while.

lifeturnsonadime · 04/11/2024 16:50

It just pisses me off that we are so deeply into an anti woman post truth age that no amount of evidence that this man is a man will be enough to satisfy those who put the desires of men over the safety of women.

They don't care.

The men are more important.