imane khelif has been allegedly confirmed to be a man.

[Cartwrightandson]

A leaked French medical report from 2023 has confirmed that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is male.

Top endocrinologists found that Khelif has XY chromosomes, no uterus, internal testicles, and a "micropenis."

The report was drafted in June of 2023 via a collaboration between the Kremlin-Bicêtre hospital in Paris, France, and the Mohamed Lamine Debaghine hospital in Algiers, Algeria. Drafted by expert endocrinologists Soumaya Fedala and Jacques Young, the report reveals that Khelif is impacted by 5-alpha reductase deficiency, a disorder of sexual development that is only found in biological males.

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I just googled images of Serena Williams, thinking maybe the image of the clearly female tennis player I had in my head was actually someone else. Nope. The only way Serena looks remotely male is if you ignore her rather large boobs.

Of course, she could be male with implants, but I can't imagine any elite sportsperson opting for implants so big they make it hard to run around. So i can only conclude that they are real.

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You got very far because lots of people really do think like this and really do argue on this level, so you were very plausible, but you've overegged it now.

It's nothing to do with "looking manly". Which Serena doesn't in any case. To backwards sexists, perhaps.

It's to do with literally going through a MALE puberty and having a male karyotype and male chromosomes. Hence the failing of tests and refusal to take a very, VERY simple one that would show the sex once and for all.

Meanwhile, let's remember that an actual woman was kicked out of the Olympics for being a few sips of waters-worth over the weight limit, and another for protesting the plight of women in Afghanistan. Strictness, of course, returns when it's "only" women under scrutiny. Not males with female in their passports though, because special, presumably so other men who say they're women can also get to compete in women's sports. Who cares if it's women losing medals and getting punched in the face by men? The double standards and regressive sexism on show here is revolting.

It's depressing isn't it?

Well I think there might be a little bit of racism in this IK saga

Says the person who said Serena Williams looks like a man

https://www.ibtimes.sg/imane-khelifs-coach-admits-boxer-has-problem-chromosomes-after-she-won-gold-paris-olympics-75644

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-13733607/Imane-Khelif-gender-boxer-olympics-chromosomes.html

the shame of you bringing the best tennis player the world has ever seen into this!!! FFS - get a grip & leave Serena WIlliams alone.

as far as Khelif looking like a man becasue he is muscular - don't forget this all occured up during the OLYMPICS - where an astonighing number of female athletes are very very muscular. I don't see any of them being mistaken for men.

@headstone ... the question over this athlete was not raised based on looks or behaviour.. it was raised because of information that this athlete failed a sex test in a previous competition. The IOC continued to state that this person was legally female and that this was enough to be permitted to compete based on the rules in force at the time.

Many other sports required entrants to the female competition to be biologically female, athletics, cycling and swimming.. to name a few. Other sports did not.. football and boxing.. and possibly other combat events.

The fact that the IOC directed journalists not to speculate on the sex or gender of competitors, hinted that there was something that was being hidden.

We don't know the full extend of the number of male competitors in the female competition, but we do know there were at least 4.

We know this because each of these 4 athletes has failed sex tests in other competitions... not because we think they don't fit gender stereotypes.. facts.. biology... and in some cases, interviews with the athletes themselves (football again).

I think your anger is slightly misplaced. You can equally say that in the world where a woman doesn’t fit into men’s standards she is called a disgrace and a cheat. I mean, even courts operate on presumption of innocence. One day the truth will surface but that’s not it.

A few years ago, we were told that we women were 'upholding patriarchal beauty standards' for daring to say that Caster Semenya looks like a man. But actually men with 5 ARD have a similar look. Quite large shoulders, small hips, completely flat chests - faint five o clock shadow.

Imane Khelif and Lin Tu Ting both follow this pattern. Note how in Semenya's wedding photos his wife has her hand on his chest. Would she be cupping his breast in her official wedding photo if she genuinely thought he was a woman?

Similarly, Khelif's boxing coach carried him on his shoulders, with Khelif's bare legs touching his neck. He would ever have done that if he genuinely believed Khelif is a man.

Which 'reliable source' do you think will release this information when Khelif has denied all permission to do so?

This is Georges Cazorla releasing information that would indicate that this current report from the Greater Paris University Hospital endocrinologist Kremlin-Bicêtre is accurate. That a Paris based Endocrinologist stated there was unexpected chromosomes for a female person. AND that an Algerian doctor has been giving testosterone suppression treatment. (No female athlete ever requires testosterone suppression from naturally produced levels of testosterone )

https://reduxx.info/khelifs-coach-confirms-problem-with-chromosomes-as-spanish-national-boxing-team-commissioner-reveals-that-khelif-was-considered-too-dangerous-to-train-against-women/

https://archive.ph/MEBxM

There is plenty of information now given on this thread that shows how the IOC came to include male people with this DSD in female sports categories, the impacts on a male body of the medical condition for you to read if you choose.

I don't recall any of Khelif's team nor the IOC stating that Khelif had XX chromosomes and they had to change their published statement to be carefully worded about Khelif. They simply doubled down on 'Khelif has a passport that states Khelif is 'female'' which is absolutely consistent with the fact that Khelif was registered as a female in error and went through male puberty.

Even the source YOU posted cannot confirm female chromosomal sex at all. And yes, that is only part of the determination of categorising sex, but it is a significant one if a male has XY chromosomes and has a body with clear signs of virilisation which can be plainly seen (gait, q-angles, hip alignment, skeletal proportions etc).

It is purely up to you as to whether you believe that these sources are acurrate, however Georges Cazorla's account has not been denied to my recollection and the evidence given by Dr. Ioannis Filippatos (Surgeon, Sport Medicine Doctor, and Ob/Gyn Specialist) is also consistent with this account as well.

If you use You Tube videos to understand stuff, try this one.

@headstone what you seem to be ignoring/missing is no one here cares if a woman looks like a man.

We are objecting to ACTUAL MEN competing in womens sports.

what about that can't you understand?

Tearing a woman (unless proven otherwise) down without any solid proof based on hearsay (which originated from remarks made by Russian boxing chair, hmmm. Not like Russians have some vested interest in Olympic committee failures, right?!)… I mean … it all screams sensationalism doesn’t it?

What were the chances of the two boxers the IBA pointed out were male and therefore had an unfair and unsafe advantage over women going on to beat every single woman they fought and winning gold? Hell of a coincidence, isn't it?

If this was all just a Russian conspiracy for shits and giggles, why didn't Imane Khelif or Lin Yu-Ting appeal their disqualification from the Women’s World Boxing Championships in 2023?

Why would two independent laboratories (Sistem Tip Laboratory in Istanbul and Dr Lal PathLabs in New Delhi) collude with Russians and risk destroying their reputation by making something up that IK and LY-T could so easily prove was a lie?

Just to clarify. The IBC is not the 'Russian boxing federation'. And the results were also verified by the European Boxing Confederation.

Algeria is bloody massive. Throw a dart at a map of NW Africa and you'll probably hit it.

It's not about looking manly. Lady Di never had an MRI scan that showed her testicles.

Come on now, we've gone way beyond this level of disingenuousness.

As we've pointed out multiple times, it is nothing to do with looks and "not fitting into men's standards". Lots of female athletes don't (well, if you're talking to the kind of idiots who think Serena Williams is 'manly') and you're talking to feminist women who don't believe in upholding that sexist shite about having to be "feminine" anyway. It's irrelevant to us.

The reason for questioning Khelif was that HE had failed two sex tests previously. That HE won't take another test. And that HIS coach had admitted there was a "karyotype" issue. And multiple female boxers were complaining about unfairness, that he was dangerous. I suspect they know rather more than you do about their own sports. I think you don't give a shit about fairness for women and think men should always come first.

Why would a 'Russian conspiracy' target an Algerian athlete anyway?

Yes, sorry. I should've looked back for the details, was being lazy.

It's making me laugh that it's all over Twitter now. No sympathy. He knew he is male before he chose to get in the Olympics boxing ring and be broadcast to the world. Had he not cheated no one would know.

You need to go to specsavers if you think either aren't "womanly" 🙄

I don't think it's particularly nice or dignified that the details of this man's DSD are all over social media, but his own actions led to this.

I think your anger is slightly misplaced. You can equally say that in the world where a woman doesn’t fit into men’s standards she is called a disgrace and a cheat. I mean, even courts operate on presumption of innocence. One day the truth will surface but that’s not it.

Have you been drinking?!?! Which woman are called a disgrace and a cheat? Imane is a man. Several independent sex tests have shown that to be the case. He even signed to accept the IBA findings.

www.iba.sport/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Letter-to-Imane-Khelif-Receipt-acknowledged.pdf

He also started an appeal and dropped it when his team test results came back.

We ALREADY know the truth.