Female nurses have to get changed with a male. They are told to go to another room. The man keeps the female changing room to himself. Wtaf is going on?

[TealTraybake]

Female nurses ‘forced out of changing rooms’ after complaining about trans colleague

NHS whistleblowers dubbed ‘Darlington Five’ say they feel ‘humiliated and dehumanised’

Read in The Telegraph: https://apple.news/AC7RGaXTPTYe2J4CAixEvDw

By “tolerance for women”, you mean tolerance for your assertions that you are “perfectly entitled” to “view people” as you like- and presumably treat them as such(?) - regardless of their dignity and lived experience and no matter how cruel, harmful and degrading it is to the person?

And this is ok because you are a woman?

Meanwhile it doesn’t matter why people are trans- (I mean why bother to understand it?) - however, what we do of course know is that some trans people are “doing it” just to harass women? And , according to one pp , if we ignored them they’d “soon get bored”?

I think what people are saying is that this person is male. Whether they are trans or not should actually be entirely irrelevant, because being trans is a feeling that some people have and it's not a good reason to compromise other people's safety and dignity.

I think it’s worth reading the article at the very least the employers advised them not to complain. Which is very sinister if you think about it,

This is what bothers me so much about trans rights activism much of it is about compelling women & girls to lower boundaries and threatening them with accusations of wrong think or transphobia for wanting reasonable safeguarding from all men.

Do we actually have evidence that the person concerned in this report is doing that?

I have no fucks to give as to why people transition. But males in females only spaces will make many females uncomfortable.

If natal males can't see that, then ...... they're really not womaning correctly. Perhaps they should piss off and use their own areas.

This man is hardly treating those poor women with dignity or respecting how they feel based on their lived experience, is he?

It's cruel, harmful and degrading to women to expect them to undress in the presence of a male colleague (let alone one who prances round in his underwear, makes inappropriate comments and talks about his sex life at the same time).

Why don't you care about that?

It's been widely reported.

I’m not trying to get you to agree with anything: I know it’s futile.

I was just asking questions to clarify people’s statements.

Males are not Females however they feel. That is not a view, not a belief, not a perspective, not one subject to being perfectly entitled to, or not.

it is a fact, as much aa fact as the sky is blue and water is wet

Males are not females. not now not ever

And we are asking you to clarify yours.

what is a trans woman?

I'd get undressed in front of him /her that would serve him/her right. Put them off their breakfast!!!

"Lived experience" I hate that term. All experience is lived experience. It's used to try and justify viewpoints without having to give an explanation behind it.

Perhaps they should piss off

by “they” you mean trans women?

😂😂😂

Agreed. The book is about the disgraceful lack of evidence for any of the treatments being handed out to “trans” kids…there’s actually something very wrong with people saying that kids with gender dysphoria don’t deserve the same standard of medical care as everyone else and should just get whatever they want because “trans”…(but I digress)

Why so you can argue with me?

You tell us what you mean by woman and trans woman before asking others what they mean by the words they use!

You're using the classic deflection tactics that's always used by those claiming TWAW.

Agreed.

Why did they not turn the extra office space into the transgender changing room? Everyone would have been happy. This is a fight that clearly wasn’t needed

there’s actually something very wrong with people saying that kids with gender dysphoria don’t deserve the same standard of medical care as everyone else

This will forever blow my mind.

Imagine thinking you're advocating for these kids, but arguing against them having properly evidenced care?

Why can't you answer the question?

They never will answer this. At best, they'll just parrot transwomen are anyone who says they're women. It's pointless asking really.

No, because you don't know. If you take the time to write down what it actually means to you, you'll see what a thin tissue of lies and misunderstandings it is.

However if I am wrong about you

Prove it.

Agree largely with what you say but what happens to a 24 year old transwoman on hormone blockers who looks very much female ? Like or not you’ll have shared a female space with one unknowingly, I’m sure and not been sexually assaulted. Not all transwomen are hairy 50 year old men with a bad wig and a short dress.