Female nurses have to get changed with a male. They are told to go to another room. The man keeps the female changing room to himself. Wtaf is going on?

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Female nurses ‘forced out of changing rooms’ after complaining about trans colleague

NHS whistleblowers dubbed ‘Darlington Five’ say they feel ‘humiliated and dehumanised’

Read in The Telegraph: https://apple.news/AC7RGaXTPTYe2J4CAixEvDw

It isn't about getting their own spaces, it's about forcing women to accept trans ideology. This man has been seen with an obvious erection under his pants while watching women undress. He is the one who should be using the converted office not the women. He is a pervert who shouldn't be working with vulnerable people.

So I have to answer to you otherwise I’m trolling ?

If you won't answer, it's because you know you can't. Because you know we're right.

Now, explain to us how a post-pubescent male with a cock and balls is at risk in the.... male facility?

We know you won't answer. And we all know why.

Yes. For trans exclusionary women and girls. As offered by this hospital.

That's just another way of saying a third space surely?

But yes, cool. I have no issue with that. I'd be interested to see how many women are still using those spaces in 2,3,5 years though.

Btw, gay males and several transwomen have said they are at no risk in the males. One transwoman on twitter actually filmed themselves at the urinals in the males.
They said the most the get is a sly smirk.
Total.

Period.

So why don't you take their word for it?

If you know why, why do you keep asking me?

The third space is for the males with their cocks and balls.

Female spaces for women and girls.

Male spaces for males, and for transwomen with their cocks and balls.

Women and girls (and we're MALE Exclusionary, not trans) already have a place. It's called FEMALE.

Yes just one that doesn’t require trans women to out themselves.

Why won't you answer simple questions? What are you actually on the thread for, what are you trying to achieve? You are giving the impression of being of someone with zero regard for the rights of women and I'm wondering what you're getting out of this- just a bit of fun on a boring day?

My concern would be what would happen when the vast majority of women decide to use the female-only space. Would transwomen start breaching boundaries again for the validation? Though I suppose that could be an issue with third spaces too, and that's about the best solution I can think of.

As long as all facilities are fit for purpose (the ones at this hospital aren't) that's fine.

The only logical solution then is individual changing rooms for all. If everyone needs to be accommodated then hospitals etc simply have to make provisions whether they like it or not.

No, you have not.

And, you said you'd "find the post".

Now go find it, as you promised you would and post it here.

OR, summarise why you think a hefty post-pubertal male with cock and balls is 'at risk' in the male facility. When gay men and transwomen have told you they are not?

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How is a male with a cock and balls 'outing himself' among other males?

We had a tranwoman, who changed in our changing rooms at our NHS Trust.
Nothing bad happened.
It was just 10 other females. Joking, trying to get dressed quickly and find their name badges and pens.
We bonded together as colleagues.

Sorry just popping back on as I had a thought. How about we have two sets of facilities for women and girls ? Since there are many of us who don’t consider trans women and girls a threat to our safety and dignity?

There aren't all that many, proportionally. In polls women across all walks of life have consistently said that they don't want intact MTF males (pre op "trans women" in your terminology) in female only spaces such as toilets and changing rooms.

Male and Female.

That's it.

OR, Male, Female and Trans/Gender Neutral.

It was just 10 other females.

It wasn't.

Now.

How do you protect the women who use the women's only facility from being 'outed' as having particular beliefs. And ensure their safety from nut job activists who don't like gender critical women and are in the habit of intimidation and assaulting those women?

And how do you stop a transwoman's dignity and privacy in the 'women's' changing room being invaded when they get their kit off and all the actual women can SEE they are trans. These women might well be fine with the penis, but think of the poor transwoman who feels violated by these women's gaze.

Hmm.

Women are safer if they just have women's only facilities and you just ensure that the privacy and dignity of transwomen is kept to transwomen themselves.

Yes, on the face of it, it seems fine, as long as the rules for use are upheld. I think some transwomen might be in for a shock at how few people would want to use the trans-inclusionary women's facilties though.

to be clear, you do recognise trans people exist right?

I think they're a male sexual predator, who gets off on upsetting women and rape survivors.

Wow.