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To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?

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Absym · 27/03/2024 12:20

Sadly Spain is providing ample evidence of why this is all a terrible idea.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/03/26/spains-trans-equality-law-is-a-predators-charter/

Spain’s ‘trans equality’ law is a predator’s charter

Gender self-ID has eviscerated women’s rights.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/03/26/spains-trans-equality-law-is-a-predators-charter/

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BIossomtoes · 01/04/2024 00:01

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 31/03/2024 23:40

all of the posts by remaining Labour supporters on these threads, have only served to convince me even more, that voting Labour at this time is a terrible idea

Good for you, I usually vote Labour but am more of a floating voter really - the more you post the more I'm convinced that Labour is definitely the better option.
I want a fresh new start. Not more of the same shit and culture wars.

Same. I just want to see the back of the current apology for a government. The last few years have felt like an endurance test. It’s exhausting.

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/04/2024 00:08

Absym · 31/03/2024 23:28

😂🙈 Anyone with half a brain cell would understand that lots of ex Labour supporters still want to vote Labour but never ever will again whilst Labour state women have penises. Alas the remaining Labour supporters are so transfixed by the tories all they can see is that if people are saying Labour are a big women hating turd, then they must like the tories. That’s the myopic vision. But never mind. It’s been said time and time again so I doubt anything will change now.

I'm not a Labour supporter.

I am an adult, female, menopausal mother who feels the damage this Tory Party has done to the country.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 01/04/2024 00:20

I am an adult, female, menopausal mother who feels the damage this Tory Party has done to the country

Same.

CrappySack · 01/04/2024 10:28

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 01/04/2024 00:20

I am an adult, female, menopausal mother who feels the damage this Tory Party has done to the country

Same.

Thirded.

I wonder what they'll come up with next to try and trick us silly little wimmin. Maybe free lipsticks for us. Or a pretty new hairdo.

Absym · 01/04/2024 13:38

It was never about politics. It is about women’s and children’s rights. As a mother of girls especially, I want women’s and children’s sex based rights to be protected. That’s the beginning and the end of it.

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Absym · 01/04/2024 14:11

Scottish hate crime law brought in today - could see people arrested for using a transgender person's wrong pronouns. But nothing about protecting women and girls from misogyny.

To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?
To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?
To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?
To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?
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Absym · 01/04/2024 14:12

More. Do we need any more warnings?? 🙈

To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?
To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?
To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?
To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?
To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?
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BIossomtoes · 01/04/2024 14:13

Absym · 01/04/2024 13:38

It was never about politics. It is about women’s and children’s rights. As a mother of girls especially, I want women’s and children’s sex based rights to be protected. That’s the beginning and the end of it.

Of course it’s about politics. It’s all about politics and stirring up culture wars and division.

Absym · 01/04/2024 14:13

Predatory and or ambitious males. Appropriating and abusing females. How anyone can enable this, is mind blowing.

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Absym · 01/04/2024 14:15

BIossomtoes · 01/04/2024 14:13

Of course it’s about politics. It’s all about politics and stirring up culture wars and division.

No. It’s about protecting females. But you will never see that, or you don’t want to. But this is old well trodden ground by now. We’re going round in circles.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 01/04/2024 14:35

Absym · 01/04/2024 14:11

Scottish hate crime law brought in today - could see people arrested for using a transgender person's wrong pronouns. But nothing about protecting women and girls from misogyny.

That's because Misogyny is not a Hate Crime. The Tories refused to make it one.

They really hate women.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 01/04/2024 14:37

BIossomtoes · 01/04/2024 14:13

Of course it’s about politics. It’s all about politics and stirring up culture wars and division.

Yep
Whether it's migrants "coming over on boats"
"Trans people taking over women"

Or whatever else is "bogeyman" of the week, fucking sick of all this trying to pit people against each other instead of sorting stuff out.

Absym · 01/04/2024 14:52

You’re on the wrong thread. @BIossomtoes @GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight
whatever axe you’ve got to grind with the tories. That’s not what this thread is about. Much as you are trying to make it so.

i see you have totally ignored the screen shots above. About horrific cases where males have abused females amongst other things.

But double down, you’re right there’s no way out for anyone enabling predatory males.

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GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 01/04/2024 15:41

Absym · 01/04/2024 14:52

You’re on the wrong thread. @BIossomtoes @GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight
whatever axe you’ve got to grind with the tories. That’s not what this thread is about. Much as you are trying to make it so.

i see you have totally ignored the screen shots above. About horrific cases where males have abused females amongst other things.

But double down, you’re right there’s no way out for anyone enabling predatory males.

On the wrong thread
Who are you, the Thread Police?! 🙄😂
"That's not what this thread is about"
Er, it's a thread about the leaders of this country?;
It's right there in the title.
Are you getting this one mixed up with one about a car parking space or what you're having for your Easter dinner or something?!

BIossomtoes · 01/04/2024 16:42

I didn’t mention the Tories. I merely said culture wars are political.

Binglebong · 01/04/2024 17:42

I think all of the parties are shit shows. Tories have at least woken up to this being a bad idea/bad politics, while Labour etc all still haven't. And yes, it happened on the tories watch but they are now trying to improve things. I really hope someone else will wake up though as I REALLY don't want to vote for them.

BIossomtoes · 01/04/2024 17:50

What are the Tories doing to “improve things”?

Absym · 01/04/2024 18:44

BIossomtoes · 01/04/2024 16:42

I didn’t mention the Tories. I merely said culture wars are political.

Biological sex based rights are not culture wars.

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GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 01/04/2024 18:48

Absym · 01/04/2024 18:44

Biological sex based rights are not culture wars.

Having a "minority of the day" to focus on is
As I said, if it's not immigrants, it's people who are trans lately.
Trying to get everyone blaming each other rather than look at the shit they're (the Gov) are doing or indeed not doing.

Absym · 01/04/2024 19:18

Let’s see how this goes! Thank goodness we have JKR. A woman not afraid to state facts loudly and clearly, because she’s rich enough not to worry about having her job and or reputation taken away by morons.

Thanks JKR. Let’s see what the Scottish gvt does with this. Maximum jail term for saying a trans woman is a man - 7yrs. Yes that’s right. We’re not in ‘1984’, it just feels like it.

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Absym · 01/04/2024 19:20

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c51j64lk2l8o

To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?
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CrappySack · 01/04/2024 22:22

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/04/2024 14:35

That's because Misogyny is not a Hate Crime. The Tories refused to make it one.

They really hate women.

I'm sure OP thinks that's Labour's fault too.

Not that OP addresses specific things people point out the Tories have done that harm women, apart from to say 'but Labour....'

CrappySack · 01/04/2024 22:27

Do you realise that JK is famously anti-Tory?

Pippa246 · 01/04/2024 22:43

@Absym - JKR’s tweets on this are just brilliant. I am both ashamed and fearful to be a woman in Scotland and to have a daughter. People, especially women, really really need to wake up to this and what it WILL mean for women and girls. It’s a fucking time-bomb just waiting to explode.

Absym · 02/04/2024 10:04

Pippa246 · 01/04/2024 22:43

@Absym - JKR’s tweets on this are just brilliant. I am both ashamed and fearful to be a woman in Scotland and to have a daughter. People, especially women, really really need to wake up to this and what it WILL mean for women and girls. It’s a fucking time-bomb just waiting to explode.

Yes. 💯.

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