To think that unless the leaders in this country stand up to this sht, women and children’s rights are totally fcked?

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Sadly Spain is providing ample evidence of why this is all a terrible idea.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/03/26/spains-trans-equality-law-is-a-predators-charter/

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But...but we're told there are no problems with self id internationally. Could that be a lie? 🤔

🤔 I I don’t know. Shall we look at the evidence…?

Unfortunately, and this was me also... People don't quite understand what's going on.

Most people are liberal and live and let live in the UK.

So it rumbles on in the background... What's wrong with trans people wanting xyz.

I only become engaged when I was intrigued on here to wonder why jk Rowling was being maligned.

Some excellent posts later and it all made sense and I started to do more research.

That article is terrifying.

We need a panorama or something on this to explain what is happening.

Unfortunately the BBC is completely ‘captured’ .

I supported trans ideology until I couldn’t anymore

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2019/04/10/i-supported-trans-ideology-until-i-couldnt-anymore/

’Now, when I reflect on my “switch” from being an unrelenting trans activist/“ally” to being critical of gender identity ideology and legislation, I’m chilled at how easy it was for me — a psychologist (now retired), ostensibly trained to understand the human mind — to become so caught up in the momentum of “trans rights” that I avoided critical thought, much like a new member of a cult. And, while I’m reluctant to call trans activism a “cult,” I’m aware of many disconcerting similarities: the absolute refusal to allow anyone to criticize issues; silencing, smearing, and ostracizing those who do ask questions (in this case, labeling them “transphobic”) about the ideology of transgenderism; and pressuring individuals (from parents to health professionals) to blindly adhere to the view that some people are “born in the wrong body,” and that the only way to “fix” this error is through medical intervention, such as puberty-suppressing drugs, cross-sex hormones, and various surgeries, rather than with psychological intervention. And, much like in a cult, those who push gender identity ideology discourage independent thought, and instead respond to requests for evidence and facts to support their beliefs with platitudes, mantras, and scare tactics, repeated over and over, until they become reality.’

Now come on, I really dont think that's true. Look at how The Guardian reports this nonsense compared to The Times and (whisper it) the Daily Heil.

Also, look at how The Guardian treated Suzanne Moore and Hadley Freeman.

Thank goodness for JKR!

And how the Observer treated Julie Burchill ..

Reading that article, I don't blame some police and military officers changing gender from m to f. 15% more money as a motherhood premium. Setting the trans issue aside, Spain seems quite forward thinking on women's rights.

It genuinely scares me! I do believe that a really small percentage of the population have gender dysmorphia, and I really feel for them. It doesn't sound like a nice condition at all and I don't wish it on anyone.

The problem is that being transgender has become a social contagion and it's seen as normal and cool to "identify" as other things so we're seeing it EVERYWHERE, despite the condition only really effecting a small number of people. (Now, we have children growing up thinking it's as common as asthma!) & that it's kind and accepting to let men into women only spaces. That its "inclusive" to let adult men compete against females in sports.

Very concerning stuff for the women of the future!

Women and children are in a precarious situation.
We've been shouting as loud as we can and women's concerns are just ignored.
The Labour leader and mps are taking the piss.
It's not funny seeing your rights being stripped and to be threatened but and told to bekind but that is what they are doing - on purpose.

Spain seems quite forward thinking on women's rights.

No. If a man can legally ‘be a woman’, by simply saying ‘I identify as a woman’, then women don’t really exist in their own right at all, do they. It’s not ‘a trans issue’ at all. It’s a women's rights issue.

A particularly interesting website with a lot of thought provoking information.. If interested, read and follow the links, it is all quite staggering.

https://gendercriticalwoman.blog/2023/06/22/angela-eagle-mp/

I’m not sure how the pp missed the harms in the article tbh

Also agree with @MidgeGreensteet

Anyone would think it is an important issue for women.

@CarrotCake01 exactly.

When I was young you liked pop groups and had pics of bros on the wall.When my older daughter hit secondary the in thing was to want to be a boy.
A hugely disproportionate amount of girls changed their names and became gay as well.
Including my dd.
I'm all for finding love where you want and can, I fully supported dd but what I wanted to know was how much of this is truly your choice and how much is the tidal wave of influence in this school. The school became notorious for it.

@Kendodd why not do someone research around this? Some good links on here as to why the trans issue is very much a woman issue.

@Hungrycaterpillarsmummy morning Rishi!

Some women.

As a PP said

‘The reason this shit has "happened under the Tories" is because its a global trend which has taken hold in almost all developed countries. It was going to happen whichever party was in power. There has, at least, been some push back under the current government (Cass review, clarification of the Equality Act etc).

I believe protection of womens rights and an exploratory approach for people experiencing gender distress will be much less likely with any other party in power at Westminster apart from the Conservatives. You can choose to put your fingers in your ears or decide that other issues are more important but dont kid yourself that womens rights arent going to be fucked under Labour.’

Now if some women don’t think women’s rights are an important issue, I wonder why that is.

I honesty dread to think what would now be enshrined in law had Labour been in power.

It should matter to every woman who values her vote

I think women’s rights are a very important issue and are embedded in every aspect of society. As a second wave feminist I find confining women’s rights to a single issue tunnel visioned. When rape has essentially been decriminalised through lack of conviction, domestic violence rises every year - up by 7.7% last year - while the conviction rate shrinks and 30% of UK children live in poverty, the trans issue comes a long way down my list of concerns about women’s rights.