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YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/07/2023 09:59

People with IGT
People with traumatic births
People with pph
People with prem or sick babies
Adoptive parents
Same sex parents

People don't have traumatic births. Only women do.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 10/07/2023 10:00

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/07/2023 09:55

Breastmilk from another source? Wet nursing? For most new mothers this is impractical. The lack of support for breastfeeding in the UK is a scandal, but we do have clean water and formula. I was able to feed both my children but I was formula fed myself and I've turned out OK. I would have done that myself if necessary and it wouldn't have been the end of the world.

Breast milk from another source can mean donated breast milk. My twins were premature, and while they were in the neonatal unit I was able to give them milk donated by other mothers to the hospital, both before my milk came in and also as I was building up my supply.

JustHavinABreak · 10/07/2023 10:03

For the sake of clarity, I'm going to use biological terms. This man is like the stereotypical child in the playground chanting "nah nah na nah nah"

He has a nipple fetish and can now use this current era of woke bollox-ology to indulge himself and flaunt it. Most of the time, I don't have the time or energy to get involved in these discussions but this time there's a child involved. It's a baby fgs. He's not feeding that baby, he's using that baby.

Makemeawinner · 10/07/2023 10:03

A male, however they identify, trying to breastfeed an infant is wrong on every single level.
The above would never be in the best interests of the child. On which crazy planet does an adult’s ‘needs’ trump a babies?

Duckskitbank · 10/07/2023 10:05

He’s vile. I can’t believe how many people I have seen on Twitter defending this abysmal practice. Anyone who thinks this is ok should be kept well away from children imo.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2023 10:05

On which crazy planet does an adult’s ‘needs’ trump a babies?

Welcome to 2023, where men's fetishes matter more than a baby's safety.

What a time to be alive.

whereaw · 10/07/2023 10:08

This is not in the best interests of the baby.

No man can ever ever ever be a woman, no matter what they do to themselves and call themselves, and as upsetting as it is for men to invade women's spaces this is a whole new level of depravity.

The poor child. A real mother does what is best for her child which is why they often make the painful decision to switch to formula if breastfeeding does not work for them. It's about he child, not about the parent, or dad in this case.

Ohhhhhhhhh · 10/07/2023 10:09

I had a traumatic birth and very low milk supply, was almost readmitted to hospital because ds wasn't gaining weight and was basically told I had to formula feed. I had no idea there was medication available, no one ever mentioned it.

whereaw · 10/07/2023 10:11

@Ohhhhhhhhh I had no idea either, and have lots of friends who had to stop breastfeeding for similar reasons. It is disgusting that women get no help and along comes a man with a fetish....

malmi · 10/07/2023 10:12

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Emotionalsupportviper · 10/07/2023 10:13

C1N1C · 10/07/2023 09:19

I've clicked.

[Spoilers]
Riley Gaines calling out a trans individual for breastfeeding, but also obtaining sexual gratification from nipple clamps.

It isn't breastfeeding.

The secretions produced by these hormones in a male body are NOT nutritious and do not resemble breast milk.

It is just a nasty, dirty fetish, and a poor infant is being forced to be part of it. He claims that because they also give the baby formula milk, that makes everything all right.

It doesn't. This is abusive.

AutumnCrow · 10/07/2023 10:15

I never thought I'd see the day where a poster on MN defends a man using a baby as a sex prop, yet here we are.

Seeitsayitsalted · 10/07/2023 10:15

buckingfitch · 10/07/2023 09:18

It's a video calling out a trans man who "breastfeeds" his baby and also posts photos of himself with nipple clamps on so clearly a fetish for him

Do you think women who enjoy nipple stimulation are disgusting for BF?

whereaw · 10/07/2023 10:16

@Seeitsayitsalted can you really not see the difference? Really?

AutumnCrow · 10/07/2023 10:17

'But what about the women?!' is a facile argument when the thread is about a man and a baby.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2023 10:18

Do you think women who enjoy nipple stimulation are disgusting for BF?

Women who are breastfeeding are doing that because it's in the best interests of their baby. This man is not doing that. He's doing it entirely for his own gratification.

Thosesummernights · 10/07/2023 10:21

Please can we stop comparing a breastfeeding woman/women to what this man is doing. They are not even in the same ballpark. Do not bring a nursing mother into the same realm as this absolute abomination. It’s an insult

LadyGrinningSoul85 · 10/07/2023 10:21

My thoughts exactly.
I've not read all the comments as due to being a parent of a trans son, I'm likely to angry at the sheer ignorance of some, but what about regular women that like nipple clamps and also breastfeed?

Oh, that's right. They're not perverts are they, because they're 'normal'.

I honestly despair. Some people really do solve the myth of "How is the Daily Mail still so popular?!" and it's bloody depressing.

Seeitsayitsalted · 10/07/2023 10:21

whereaw · 10/07/2023 10:16

@Seeitsayitsalted can you really not see the difference? Really?

what is the difference?

Both are turned on by nipple play

But one is disgusting the other not

This site really is a meme at times with the dogged trans crap

LadyGrinningSoul85 · 10/07/2023 10:22

LadyGrinningSoul85 · 10/07/2023 10:21

My thoughts exactly.
I've not read all the comments as due to being a parent of a trans son, I'm likely to angry at the sheer ignorance of some, but what about regular women that like nipple clamps and also breastfeed?

Oh, that's right. They're not perverts are they, because they're 'normal'.

I honestly despair. Some people really do solve the myth of "How is the Daily Mail still so popular?!" and it's bloody depressing.

This was meant to be in reply to a previous poster who mentioned women that like nipple play.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 10/07/2023 10:22

Any man who 'breastfeeds' a baby needs his hard drive checked. As does anyone who supports this.

Welcome to 2023, where men's wants, desires and need for validation trump absolutely everybody. Even babies.

Seeitsayitsalted · 10/07/2023 10:22

Thosesummernights · 10/07/2023 10:21

Please can we stop comparing a breastfeeding woman/women to what this man is doing. They are not even in the same ballpark. Do not bring a nursing mother into the same realm as this absolute abomination. It’s an insult

He is chest feeding

Providing his baby with nutrition just the same as a BF mother

Do you also think it’s an abomination for women to use the same medication to stimulate a milk supply?

Kindofcrunchy · 10/07/2023 10:23

PinkyU · 10/07/2023 09:35

Do you feel the same way about everyone who uses induced lactation?

People with IGT
People with traumatic births
People with pph
People with prem or sick babies
Adoptive parents
Same sex parents

Have you ever breastfed? Do you understand the mechanics of induced lactation?

Seeitsayitsalted · 10/07/2023 10:23

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 10/07/2023 10:22

Any man who 'breastfeeds' a baby needs his hard drive checked. As does anyone who supports this.

Welcome to 2023, where men's wants, desires and need for validation trump absolutely everybody. Even babies.

oh the thinly veiled trans = pedo trope

so boring

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 10/07/2023 10:23

*He is chest feeding

Providing his baby with nutrition just the same as a BF mother*

No. He. Isn't.