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RudsyFarmer · 10/07/2023 10:54

Is this being defended on Twitter?

GameOverBoys · 10/07/2023 10:56

I would definitely think it was odd if a women posted pictures of herself on social media using nipple claps then also posted pictures of herself breast feeding. However, when you add the in the fact this person is was born male and the increased prevalence of sexual offending in men (there is no evidence that trans women offend less frequently than men). Adding in that they are also trans and the correlation with autogynephilia and how breastfeeding would play into that it starts to get very very odd.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2023 10:56

Is this being defended on Twitter?

Yep

littleburn · 10/07/2023 10:56

A man encouraging a baby suck his nipple is child sex abuse.

whereaw · 10/07/2023 10:57

I wonder what the criteria are for men being prescribed these drugs. This shows how women have to try a lot of things before they will even consider it... foi.avon.nhs.uk/Download.aspx?r=2&did=9806&f=Drug%20Treatment%20To%20Increase%20Milk%20Supply%20In%20Lactatin-4.pdf

Seeitsayitsalted · 10/07/2023 10:57

ArabeIIaScott · 10/07/2023 10:48

Even if one sets aside concerns about a baby being used as a prop for either validation or gratification, concerns about the drugs being used and potentially passed into 'milk' remain.

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Those drugs are to stimulate the hormones to produce the milk

There is no transfer to the milk produced

it’s almost like you don’t think research is done before shit like this happens

Seeitsayitsalted · 10/07/2023 10:58

littleburn · 10/07/2023 10:56

A man encouraging a baby suck his nipple is child sex abuse.

its really not

monsteramunch · 10/07/2023 10:58

monsteramunch · 10/07/2023 10:36

@Seeitsayitsalted

La Leche League's wording is absolutely not sound or scientifically based.

Their website says this:

"Human milk is amazing. It has everything a growing baby needs in exactly the right amounts and babies can easily digest it all. Research shows that a baby who is not fed on human milk is more likely to suffer from illnesses and diseases, both as a child and later in life."

This is completely misleading because no peer reviewed, academic research exists into the health effects on babies taking lactation from males. Let along long term health effects.

Their statements above are only sound and accurate if you were to replace the word 'human' with 'female', as there are countless studies into the health effects on babies breastfed by women.

Surely you find it concerning that something is being encouraged and positioned as equally beneficial to the health of babies when there isn't sound research to suggest the results are the same?

Thoughts on this @Seeitsayitsalted?

Wiccan · 10/07/2023 10:58

I have never in all my life felt so attacked /repressed and frightened as a women because of trans ideology. And please don't state "this is how trans people feel every day " because I don't fucking buy it or care. Our children are being openly abused and I will never ever accept this as normal .

WickedSerious · 10/07/2023 10:59

It's child abuse,no one in their right mind is okay with this.

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Makemeawinner · 10/07/2023 10:32

Anyone who truly believes that a ‘chest feeding’ male can fully nourish a baby from whatever drugs he’s taking, to stimulate something that doesn’t even come close to resembling the full complete milk that a female can produce needs a basic lesson in biology.
This act is simply to pander to the man’s needs and the babies needs are overlooked. Only a very narcissistic person would do that. It’s wicked.

This. ^ Any man trying to chestfeed a baby needs arresting for child abuse. And so does anyone who thinks it's OK. It's BEYOND grim.

justteanbiscuits · 10/07/2023 11:07

CatMattress · 10/07/2023 10:33

I presume you did not post photos of the two activities on your social media and expect that to be acceptable? I know I did not. Because I'm not using breastfeeding as a sexual fetish, a baby is not my prop and I am assuming the same for you...?

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No, but I don't post any photos of me online if I can possibly help it!

No one will get anywhere with the level fo drama being banded around in this thread though. No one is a pervert for liking nipple stimulation as part of their sex lives.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/07/2023 11:11

GSDmom · 10/07/2023 10:44

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

Look I'm not saying there aren't some very clear issues that really need addressing. There are. Definitely.
What I am saying is that to referring to the trans community and calling it "all fucking nonsense" is a bit strong.

Not my post you're quoting there.

DoIWantToGetIntoThisHere · 10/07/2023 11:13

If you want to hear from the horse’s mouth this is an interview with a transwoman on how they are helping their overjoyed partner out by inducing lactation and breastfeeding their baby. I deliberately haven’t linked but you can google if you wish ‘Transwomen can lactate and I’m Living Proof’ by Nominal Naomi.

Gist is - We’re all mammals and it’s ridiculous to not believe that this is a completely possible and a normal thing to (want to)do and that the milk produced is no different to that which a woman produces (give or take a few stimulating drugs)

And please don’t turn this into some debate about how women compartmentalise the completely different acts of nourishing their babies from their sex lives. We absolutely do. But that has nothing to do with what is going on here.

A fetish for lactation exists in this porn sick world. It’s a fact. There are women indulging this fetish online (obviously)and in these glorious days we must applaud them because sex work is work etc… But this is a separate issue from what is being debated here so we shouldn’t get sidetracked.

MardiMoo · 10/07/2023 11:15

@PinkyU - let’s just admit it, he’s a filthy hound. An absolute dirty dog. No need to defend anything.

Lolapusht · 10/07/2023 11:16

MoggyP · 10/07/2023 09:24

I've just looked at his account on twitter, and he's ex military, in the US, who retweets a lot of missing children appeals (including commenting positively on arrests of those who abuse children. Also follows a number of US political parody/satire sites.

There is one tweet I can't see (as I have some content blocked) so presumably that's the one where he mocks and wears a nipple clamp? If I hadn't read that description here, I'd never have guessed anything about what you say is his preferred sexual gratification, as it's not apparent in other tweets

That may be who re#tweeted Riley’s post, but the person being spoken about was interviewed by STV as a struggling mother worried about water prices going up. He’s employed by the TUC, is a TIM (ie not a mother), he used to breastfeed and posted a pic of him “nursing” a newborn on the bus on his way to receive chemo and going by his other posts, has a nipple clamping fetish.

TheoTheopolis23 · 10/07/2023 11:16

PinkyU · 10/07/2023 09:21

Stop the presses!!!!!!!!

Consenting adult who breastfeeds also likes nipple play(!).

It's "stop the press".

Your first sentence sets the tone for the accuracy of everything else you've said by the looks of it.

PurpleWisteria1 · 10/07/2023 11:17

Seeitsayitsalted · 10/07/2023 10:21

what is the difference?

Both are turned on by nipple play

But one is disgusting the other not

This site really is a meme at times with the dogged trans crap

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Yes well- here we have part of the problem don’t we.
If you are an actual lactating woman, breastfeeding a newborn it’s highly unlikely you are going to want nipple play of any sort at that time. Especially not clamping the nipple. Find me one woman that wants their nipple clamped when feeding a newborn and I will find you rocking horse shit.

GSDmom · 10/07/2023 11:18

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

I never said you did post that, you commented on my reply back to the poster who said that. And basically supported them, which is why I was reiterating my point in the first place.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/07/2023 11:20

Mustardseed86 · 10/07/2023 10:40

"Human milk is amazing. It has everything a growing baby needs in exactly the right amounts and babies can easily digest it all. Research shows that a baby who is not fed on human milk is more likely to suffer from illnesses and diseases, both as a child and later in life."

This is completely misleading because no peer reviewed, academic research exists into the health effects on babies taking lactation from males. Let along long term health effects.

It's also misleading because studies show that it's actually the economic background of the parents that make the difference. The results are reversed in countries where poorer women tend to breastfeed and richer women formula feed.

This doesn't surprise me at all. I loved breastfeeding and was really pleased I was able to feed my children for over a year each, but I was always sceptical about the benefits claimed.

Various people replied to me earlier with information about milk banks in hospital. I knew about those. They're a marvellous resource for premature babies, but no practical use whatsoever to most new parents whose babies are not premature. For the vast majority of UK families, there's a simple choice - the baby has either her own mother's milk, direct from the breast or expressed, or she has formula. It must be vanishingly rare for a baby to have another woman's breastmilk supplementing her own mother's milk.

GSDmom · 10/07/2023 11:20

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g
And I quote
"Fine, if it doesn't affect others adversely. Many activists are keen to say there's no clash of rights, but that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Women in prison, women in sport, crime statistics and census data no longer accurate, girls losing single sex loos in school, women losing single sex breastfeeding support groups, disabled women unable to stipulate female carers only and have that respected, rape crisis centres run by males, etc etc."

To which I said there were many issues that need addressing but tarring all transgender people with the same brush is wrong.

littleburn · 10/07/2023 11:22

@justteanbiscuits I don't disagree with you at all re your comments about breastfeeding and liking nipple play. Except that female nipples are both for feeding babies and an erogenous zone and to women these are two completely different and separate things.

Male nipples only serve as an erogenous purpose. So a male who posts about liking nipple clamps and then either makes a baby suck on his nipple and/or takes drugs to induce lactation to make the baby suck on his nipple (as opposed to the mother feeding the baby, or feeding the baby formula), is clearly using the baby as part of a sexual fetish. And involving a child in sexual activity is child sex abuse.

TheoTheopolis23 · 10/07/2023 11:22

Just more ridiculousness on the part of men trying to delude themselves that they can change sex to become women and do what women do

Next will be them having a womb transplanted from some poor donor (they'll somehow know what a biological woman is when they want a womb) and another Frankenstein exercise gone through to "prove" they can carry and give birth to a baby too. "It's just like a normal caesarian, women have them all the time".