words fail...honestly. Not seen this on here

[camelhoe]

https://twitter.com/theparasiteguy/status/1676617960939462656?s=48&t=husuKrLrJtz6omRqRlVU5Q

Domperidone is not used in the US.

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/information-drug-class/fda-talk-paper-fda-warns-against-women-using-unapproved-drug-domperidone-increase-milk-production

'In response to reports that women may be using an unapproved drug, domperidone, to increase milk production (lactation), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is warning breastfeeding women not to use this product because of safety concerns.'
...
'Although domperidone is approved in several countries outside the U.S. to treat certain gastric disorders, it is not approved in any country, including the U.S., for enhancing breast milk production in lactating women and is also not approved in the U.S. for any indication.
The agency is concerned with the potential public health risks associated with domperidone. There have been several published reports and case studies of cardiac arrhythmias, cardiac arrest, and sudden death in patients receiving an intravenous form of domperidone that has been withdrawn from marketing in a number of countries. In several countries where the oral form of domperidone continues to be marketed, labels for the product contain specific warnings against use of domperidone by breastfeeding women and note that the drug is excreted in breast milk that could expose a breastfeeding infant to unknown risks. Because of the possibility of serious adverse effects, FDA recommends that breastfeeding women not use domperidone to increase milk production..'

It's supposedly available in the UK for women struggling to establish bfing, under strict conditions, but in practise I've never heard a doctor actually prescribe it. Probably for the reasons cited above.

Can those who say this is fine please post scientific studies regarding the composition of any secretions produced when a male induces lactation and the comparison to human breast milk? Anyone?

Except they can

unless you think the La leche league, literally the experts in breast milk are wrong?

“Can trans women breast feed? Of course they need to follow the correct method to develop their breasts so as to induce lactation. To do so, they need to use the same hormones naturally released during a woman's pregnancy to develop their breasts. Once they do so they can often produce enough milk to cover between 25% and 75% of a baby's nutritional needs.”

can trans women produce breast milk? Of course, but they need to follow the correct method to develop their breasts so as to induce lactation. To do so, they need to use the same hormones naturally released during a woman's pregnancy to develop their breasts. Once they do so they can often produce enough milk to cover between 25% and 75% of a baby's nutritional needs

The la leche league is, unfortunately, totally captured.

Where is the scientific evidence behind this?

@Seeitsayitsalted

La Leche League's wording is absolutely not sound or scientifically based.

Their website says this:

"Human milk is amazing. It has everything a growing baby needs in exactly the right amounts and babies can easily digest it all. Research shows that a baby who is not fed on human milk is more likely to suffer from illnesses and diseases, both as a child and later in life."

This is completely misleading because no peer reviewed, academic research exists into the health effects on babies taking lactation from males. Let along long term health effects.

Their statements above are only sound and accurate if you were to replace the word 'human' with 'female', as there are countless studies into the health effects on babies breastfed by women.

Surely you find it concerning that something is being encouraged and positioned as equally beneficial to the health of babies when there isn't sound research to suggest the results are the same?

Disturbing, both the content of the link and to see people defending this clear cut child abuse so adamantly, truly feel quite nauseous.
Whatever is coming from this man's nipples it isn't comparable to a biological womans breastmilk, even the deluded truly know that deep down.

All I'm saying is you can't tar the whole community with the same brush. I know a few transgender individuals and they are by no means on this end of the spectrum. They just want to live in peace in a society that doesn't exclude them.
There are always extremists with any community whether it be sexuality, religion, gender etc busy usually they are the only ones that are ever heard.

@Seeitsayitsalted

"can trans women produce breast milk? Of course, but they need to follow the correct method to develop their breasts so as to induce lactation. To do so, they need to use the same hormones naturally released during a woman's pregnancy to develop their breasts. Once they do so they can often produce enough milk to cover between 25% and 75% of a baby's nutritional needs.”

Nobody is denying that men can lactate if induced to.

But the 'milk' they produce is not proven to be nutritionally sound and have the benefits of the milk produced by women.

"Human milk is amazing. It has everything a growing baby needs in exactly the right amounts and babies can easily digest it all. Research shows that a baby who is not fed on human milk is more likely to suffer from illnesses and diseases, both as a child and later in life."

This is completely misleading because no peer reviewed, academic research exists into the health effects on babies taking lactation from males. Let along long term health effects.

It's also misleading because studies show that it's actually the economic background of the parents that make the difference. The results are reversed in countries where poorer women tend to breastfeed and richer women formula feed.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7462406/

You could have just googled it.

Welcome to 2023, where men's wants, desires and need for validation trump absolutely everybody. Even babies

And yet the vast majority of men and women do not support these acts or think they are in a child’s interests. IMO the blame rests with a tiny group of elite politicians and journalists who, not wanting to tackle real inequality (ie, economic inequality) instead approx 20 years ago invented identity politics as a way to virtue signal to a select group of guilty rich westerners, while simultaneously throwing the struggling masses off the scent of their relative economic demise and its reasons.

There's something seriously wrong with a 'man' that wants to breastfeed a baby. There is no way that baby is getting the required nutrients from whatever they are producing.

But it's all about what the 'man' gets from it....it all about men full stop.

Women and children are getting stomped on in their rush to fulfill their sexual fantasies which are being allowed to happen out in the open for fear of upsetting them.

How has he ended up with this baby? Where did he get it from?

My kids are getting older, but I remember 15 years ago there being a lot around fathers having a feeding system that attached to the nipple - like a thin thin tube - that they could use.

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

Look I'm not saying there aren't some very clear issues that really need addressing. There are. Definitely.
What I am saying is that to referring to the trans community and calling it "all fucking nonsense" is a bit strong.

Even if that means children get harmed.

We're talking about a man breastfeeding.....a man, and you can't see anything wrong about this......that poor baby.

Ah so when it’s supporting trans people they’re captured?

Okay. Got it

any the trans lobby are the problem 🙄

Hopefully the NHS isn't paying for this false 'lactation'.

How is a baby who is getting good amounts of skin to skin and milk to boot being harmed?

That is a man who has a specific medical condition.

This is not the equivalent of men who have taken exogenous hormones to induce breast growth and then other drugs to induce prolactin production.

Ah so when it’s supporting trans people they’re captured?

Okay. Got it

When they're supporting trans peoples desires for validation over baby's health and safety they are absolutely captured and 'the problem' - yes.

Even if one sets aside concerns about a baby being used as a prop for either validation or gratification, concerns about the drugs being used and potentially passed into 'milk' remain.

I was just about to say the same @ArabeIIaScott this is a case study of one male who has a medical condition.

There is no evidence because it doesn’t exist. Men cannot breastfeed.

@oOiluvfriendsOo

You've taken my post out of context, I was replying to someone referring to the trans community as "all fucking nonsense"

I've absolutely not supported this individual's choice to feed their baby.

Tbh, given the grief that women are given at every stage of pregnancy and breastfeeding for taking any medication, thinking about a drink, soft cheese etc etc etc etc etc I don’t know why it is considered so A-ok but the medical profession for a baby to be fed ‘milk’ pumped full of hormones and god knows what in this scenario.