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To be upset that toddlers and babies are being subjected to this.

919 replies

flashbac · 03/03/2023 20:20

This is abuse. What kind of parent takes their baby to a show like this?

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lifeturnsonadime · 03/03/2023 22:54

Gosh people are reading these posts and EVEN MORE of them think it's reasonable to involve babies in drag and fetish.

14% now.

Astonishing.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/03/2023 22:54

Imagine a group of Dads announcing that they're taking their babies to the local strip club? There's be safeguarding referrals made all over the place.

What's the difference?

quietnightmare · 03/03/2023 22:57

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/03/2023 22:54

Imagine a group of Dads announcing that they're taking their babies to the local strip club? There's be safeguarding referrals made all over the place.

What's the difference?

Fact!

crispsandnuts · 03/03/2023 22:59

Blimey, now that is random.

Bring back Mr tumble and his spotty bag...

Pootleplum · 03/03/2023 22:59

Ugh it's awful. The normalisation of exposing kids to kink. Yuck.

HelloBunny · 03/03/2023 23:00

I know a woke mum who’s into all of this sort of stuff. She’s very vocal on SM. Nothing’s worth doing unless she can tell everyone...

tillyandmilly · 03/03/2023 23:00

Disturbing

AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotOfMen · 03/03/2023 23:00

Can’t believe all those mums are smiling.
Why not just take them to a strip club.
Thank goodness the babies are too young to remember.

Helleofabore · 03/03/2023 23:01

lifeturnsonadime · 03/03/2023 22:54

Gosh people are reading these posts and EVEN MORE of them think it's reasonable to involve babies in drag and fetish.

14% now.

Astonishing.

It is because to say otherwise would be to admit that those that they think are prudes are right.

It is because those voters need to feel they are progressive and liberal minded and those pointing out the issues are scaremongerers.

When the same people will complain about how children and society in general had become sexualised (and society pornified) and complain they don’t know how that happened.

SouperNoodle · 03/03/2023 23:01

I love drag storytime where drag queens come and read children's books to the littluns in libraries but this is absolutely vile.

ScrollingLeaves · 03/03/2023 23:01

You may want to know there is an attempt to persuade the government to resist the rising tide of the TQ+ gender identity ideology which children, and now babies, are being brought up to be brain washed by, through clearing up lack of clarity in the law regarding what sex (as in male or female means), so that ordinary people’s biology as men and women, boys and girls can’t be obliterated as meaningless, and safeguarding for them in their own sex based spaces is not provided, while drag queens in fetish gear are treated like messiahs.
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www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4722618-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-2

AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotOfMen · 03/03/2023 23:01

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/03/2023 22:54

Imagine a group of Dads announcing that they're taking their babies to the local strip club? There's be safeguarding referrals made all over the place.

What's the difference?

👏👏

EpicChaos · 03/03/2023 23:01

@CryptoFascistMadameCholet " MAKE IT MAKE SENSE! "

Would that i could, Mme Cholet, would that i could! :-(

" @dottyshihtzu · Today 22:37
@Oysterbabe · Today 22:18
They are definitely not fake. If they were the organisers would have been shouting about it. Their reaction has just been 'Stop trolling me haters 😭😭'
I suppose blaming trolls sounds better than ''we've had to cancel our 'Semi Naked People & Blokes In Fetish Gear Flashing Their Arses To Babies' event because normal people have unfortunately pointed out that it's completely inappropriate and downright fucking weird''.

Yep absolutely!

@dollypartin · Today 20:35
These look photoshopped/fake. I highly doubt anyone would take their child to a show like this, or that drag queens would do it? Seems unlikely

a) Why do they look fake?
They're not but why are you seemingly looking for an excuse to dismiss them out of hand?

b) Why do you doubt anyone would take their child to a show like that?
The proof of their attendance is right in front of you, so lots of parents obviously did!
Why do you consider that show inappropriate for children but yet you use 4 different qualifiers to deny the event happened, why?

Why do you doubt drag queens/others would do it?
We've already established that they did, again you seek to deny it happened, why?

Why does it seem unlikely when there is photographic and video proof that it happened, that parents attended with children and that drag acts/others did the show?

Is it that you just find the whole thing incredulous and twisted, or are you trying to deflect? 4 attempts to deny the event took place in such a short post begs the question.

Vebrithien · 03/03/2023 23:02

This is a major safeguarding concern. Babies and children can't consent to this.

On a similar safeguarding concern, please consider signing the petition to clarify that sex in the Equality Act means biological sex, and not legal sex.

No hormonal or surgical interventions are needed to gain a Gender Recognition Certificate, changing the legal sex on the birth certificate. A fully intact, XY male would legally be classed a female.

Young girls should not have to risk seeing a penis in their toilets, or changing rooms.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4722618-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-2?page=1

Eyerollcentral · 03/03/2023 23:02

RiceMakesGoodConfetti · 03/03/2023 20:47

Emperor’s New Clothes. Some of the facial expressions on the adults are “I have to look as though I just sense of humour or the others might think I’m square.”

Be square. Honestly, it’s not such a bad life choice.

Precisely. I have never seen so many ‘cool girls’ in one shot. They actually sicken me. This wouldn’t exist as a thing if they weren’t going to it. Sounds harsh but I think they are pathetic. I know the babies won’t remember but honestly it’s so sad that instead in taking their babies to any of the multiple totally innocent activities they just want to be cool and show up at this. Even five years ago this would have been unthinkable. And no it’s not the same in any way as going to baby cinema days, most of those shows I have seen advertised are fairly family friendly

Helleofabore · 03/03/2023 23:03

AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotOfMen · 03/03/2023 23:00

Can’t believe all those mums are smiling.
Why not just take them to a strip club.
Thank goodness the babies are too young to remember.

When you start looking at the video frame by frame, there is only a small proportion smiling in much of the footage. Many parents are dealing with their babies, and some look like they are wondering WTAF they are doing there.

lifeturnsonadime · 03/03/2023 23:03

Helleofabore · 03/03/2023 23:01

It is because to say otherwise would be to admit that those that they think are prudes are right.

It is because those voters need to feel they are progressive and liberal minded and those pointing out the issues are scaremongerers.

When the same people will complain about how children and society in general had become sexualised (and society pornified) and complain they don’t know how that happened.

Absolutely insane.

It's in plain sight.

If I ever took my baby to an event I'd have in mind what was in it for my baby?

What are these babies getting out of these events?

Eyerollcentral · 03/03/2023 23:03

SouperNoodle · 03/03/2023 23:01

I love drag storytime where drag queens come and read children's books to the littluns in libraries but this is absolutely vile.

Do you mind me asking why you love it? I don’t have a child of that age but I genuinely cannot imagine taking a baby or toddler to drag story time. I just think it’s completely inappropriate.

Breakfastinbedonhols · 03/03/2023 23:03

Wtf. Will be the same parents getting their kids to perform at those awful drag kid shows.

mirax · 03/03/2023 23:04

lifeturnsonadime · 03/03/2023 22:54

Gosh people are reading these posts and EVEN MORE of them think it's reasonable to involve babies in drag and fetish.

14% now.

Astonishing.

14%? It will increase. For some, it is a tribal and reflexive closing of the ranks against 'hateful bigots for being against inclusion and diversity'. They wont be posting their reasons or making a proper argument for this beyond 'you dont have to go if you dont want to'.

SunShineAllMine · 03/03/2023 23:04

All men know some men are a problem, all men behave in certain ways to safeguard the vulnerable.

Crime stats are facts.

Some men work in grooming gangs from various ideology groups, only nobody does anything about either as they are frighten that these groups of men will kill them.

Selfish cowards take money every month from the taxpayers and have left the most vulnerable be collateral damage.

Helleofabore · 03/03/2023 23:05

SouperNoodle · 03/03/2023 23:01

I love drag storytime where drag queens come and read children's books to the littluns in libraries but this is absolutely vile.

Why? Why do you think it is appropriate for drag queens to read to children? When drag is an adult entertainment and they are caricatures of women?

Annasgirl · 03/03/2023 23:05

SouperNoodle · 03/03/2023 23:01

I love drag storytime where drag queens come and read children's books to the littluns in libraries but this is absolutely vile.

Well that was the thin edge of the wedge and those of us who warned against allowing drag artists to perform for children were ridiculed by ‘cool girls’ like you - but look where we are now.

Honestly, any woman who supports drag is normalizing male fetishes and misogyny.

AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotOfMen · 03/03/2023 23:06

ScrollingLeaves · 03/03/2023 23:01

You may want to know there is an attempt to persuade the government to resist the rising tide of the TQ+ gender identity ideology which children, and now babies, are being brought up to be brain washed by, through clearing up lack of clarity in the law regarding what sex (as in male or female means), so that ordinary people’s biology as men and women, boys and girls can’t be obliterated as meaningless, and safeguarding for them in their own sex based spaces is not provided, while drag queens in fetish gear are treated like messiahs.
⬇️
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4722618-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-2

MNs
this petition needs more signatures for parliament, deadline April 2023

TheBiologyStupid · 03/03/2023 23:06

BoreOfWhabylon · 03/03/2023 22:31

Google "Desmond Is Amazing"

I wish I hadn't...!