To be upset that toddlers and babies are being subjected to this.

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This is abuse. What kind of parent takes their baby to a show like this?

Yes it's Queer Theory in action. It's about breaking down boundaries.

12 percent of voters on here think the OP is being unreasonable.

I'd like to ask that 12 % of voters what is in this for the baby?

I'd also like to ask them why this event is marketed at babies rather than old people's homes?

On twitter people who frown at this have been called fascists. For not wanting a baby to be a prop in a drag show.

Honestly people have gone so far 'left' their brains have fallen out.

LGbTQ+ parents, you'll find many of the parent's participating are gay and see it as being open minded to their way of life. My friend is a lesbian and hoping to have a baby, if I asked her she'd see it as a positive thing, me on the other hand, straight mother of 3, I'd call it grooming and trying to normalise sexual acts in front of very young children. Wrong, very wrong.

So open minded, they have no barriers and their brains have fallen clean out of their heads.

centuries from now, books will be written about the madness of these times.

What do you love about drag? Genuinely interested….

There are videos and images of performers doing their acts while babies are crawling on the floor very close by or toddling unrestrained and one performer gyrating on the floor strewn with blocks.

It is a huge OH&S issue for babies and performers as well.

That doesn’t even cover the issue of parents sitting close together with some drinking alcohol getting up and picking up/carrying children and dodging children on blankets while drinking.

I think posts like this say it all. Unbelievable unless you've followed the trend. Awful isn't it.

One boot in the face with a stripper heel could do a lot of damage for a little one. 😕

Google "Desmond Is Amazing"

I wish they were just photoshop fakes. rather than a spectacular safeguarding fail.

As for the performers, well, I don’t suppose you have a very stable income if your job is BDSM themed trapeze or niche gender bending performance art - and with normal working hours at night, I’m sure an afternoon performance fee would be appealing, and these events are £25 a pop, plus another £5 for each additional sibling, so maybe it’s as simple as ‘it’s a paid gig and the organisers have seen my show reels and the venue has okayed it so why not?’

There are so many failures to think this whole thing through…

Why didn’t the venues think, babies, booze and near naked adult performers doesn’t sound like an appropriate mix for a single event?

Why didn’t the organisers think that their choice of performers might alarm or frighten children, or give them wonky ideas about what sort of behaviour is acceptable for adults to engage in around them?

Why didn’t the performers think I better buy a unitard for this gig, because babies don’t need to be looking at my arse cheeks? Or come up with a less fetish-y, more pantomime-y alternative routine for day time events? Or just say ‘no, my performance work isn’t family friendly’?

Why did the parents think this was a good use of their time and money? And even if they went in fairly oblivious as to what the event would be, why didn’t they just walk out when a man started twerking and twizzling around in the floor to show his itsy bitsy glitter gusset to the babies seated at the front?

Why did so many adults nod along with it, either in the planning stage or on the day?

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!

Agreed the parents are irresponsible, but as much as they are to blame, so are the performers.

As a pp posted, if you asked any normal man if he would dress up and cavort like this to entertain his child, he would think it was perverted, rightly.
So these performers should be held to the same standard. They should know better, they are adults.

It's an industry.

Desmond is a good looking young boy. I don't know why he has to 'queer the world' to be relevant?

This is kind of how I feel. I enjoy drag and can, at a stretch, see how this event could be sold as 'for Mums with babies' BUT it would need to be proper babies, really. Ones that pretty much sleep, eat and poop and aren't even attempting to interact/crawl etc!

On the first photo shown here there is a child standing on the right hand side of the image - that's a curious toddler. Curious toddlers should be absolutely nowhere near anything remotely sexual, no matter who the person is doing it!

If it were Baga Chips cackling in a knee length skirt I'd feel much differently but arse cheeks and stripper heals?! Nope!

Paedophillia hiding in plain sight. So disgusting

I suppose blaming trolls sounds better than ''we've had to cancel our 'Semi Naked People & Blokes In Fetish Gear Flashing Their Arses To Babies' event because normal people have unfortunately pointed out that it's completely inappropriate and downright fucking weird''.

I think the LGB needs to be separated from the TQ here.

A woman loving another woman has zilch to do with drag queens spreading their legs in front of babies.

My impression is that it’s the self-identified “queer” group that are propagating this grooming filth, where the queer-identifying group are straight but with blue hair.

As someone on the thread on FWR, babies and young children take their cues from their parents to see what an appropriate reaction is to something they feel worried about and haven't encountered before.

Man's arsecrack in my face? Fine! Mummy is laughing.

Man wearing a small thong's penis right in front of my face? Fine! Mummy is clapping.

Partially clothed person grabbing me? Fine! Mummy is encouraging it.

Me and partially clothed man crawling on the floor together? Fine! Mummy and lots of other mummies are happy with me!

As parents, our job is to help our children put in place boundaries to keep them safe. Not normalise behaviour which could lead to sexual abuse.

The performers should be saying no to this. The achingly middle class white mummies should be saying no to this. And the two mummies who set up the company should be in the police station.

And the venues!

These are licensed venues, licensees have a shit load of obligations regarding alcohol sales, child safeguarding and legal-but-undesirable behaviour (eg gambling and getting black out drunk & what is described as ‘sexual entertainment’ you even need a licence to play recorded music!).
The fines for breaching your on-licence are hefty and will usually be enough to close a business.

The venue management have been utterly, utterly stupid and can’t even blame naivety as you have to sit an exam on the relevant law before magistrates grant your licence.

There are videos and photos from the companies website and IG. There is absolutely no question these are fake.

I would be interested who in the Local authority and Police is involved in licencing.

Thank you, you’ve summed it up perfectly

I didnt know any of that, now I know, yep. Definitely, the venues have been incredibly stupid. I wont cry if they lose their licenses.

So many layers, so many people, and they all thought this was a good idea. Makes you mad.

Anyone interested in Foucault should do a search on his influence. He is considered a founder of queer theory which seeks to destabilise language, science and social mores. He was known as a paedophile who wrote about sex with minors - Ie. Children amongst many other topics.

He and others who supported him Petitioned the French government in the 1970s to reduce the age of consent to 13. As a direct result intellectuals took lovers as young as 13. Some are still in power and have sought to silence victims. This is quite easy to find online. The victims resorted to writing books about it. It was only in the last few years that the victims were listened to. It seems that it took some raped 11 year olds who it was argued ‘consented’ to force the age of consent to lifted to 15 in France !

This was a direct consequence of Foucault’s beliefs. And so many people have embraced queer theory.

This event fits in very neatly with the lowering of sexual boundaries.

People saying ‘they are babies and this won’t be remembered’, do you think the parents attending these events will stop at this event? Or do you think it is likely that the parents will continue to expose their children to incidences which act to lower the child’s sexual boundaries and normalise sexualised behaviour? Like patting males dressed in their dog fetish gear at pride? Seeing male people being led in their dog outfits through IKEA? Watching more drag acts? Attending a family sex show? Or visiting a library with a rainbow monkey complete with a dildo as a penis?

Where is the boundary where these parents recognise sexualised behaviour? How extreme does it is have to be?

I blame the parents. Who in their right mind would take their young child (or any child) to something like this? Those children have no hope with parents like theirs.

@3peassuit 🤣🤣🤣 100 per cent with you

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Absolutely and some older members of the gay community have a lot to say about it for example James Dreyfus.
He posted the other day about how the LGB community spent years trying to persuade people (particularly right wing ones) that they weren’t perverts or paedos but just people who happened to love people of the same sex. People like him are so frustrated at the alphabet people for once again linking them to sexual fetishes and grooming.