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To think the anyone but England mentality is cringe?

600 replies

SolitaryMind · 10/12/2022 21:22

I’m Scottish, I was brought up to be anti English, SNP mad household, despite having English grandparents. I’ve always thought it made no sense, England is part of the UK like we are. I now have an English dp who is step- parent to my child, I support England in football as does my dc, every match my social media is filled with support for any country playing against England, I don’t get it! Can someone explain the logic to me, I can’t be the only one surely!

OP posts:
AnotherAppleThief · 10/12/2022 21:26

There's a patronising thread by a Scottish OP in active now, it's unnecessary and I don't see it happen the other way around.

BashfulClam · 10/12/2022 21:30

Throughout the World Cup the England campaign has been rammed down our throats. I’d like to know about some other teams.

Cwcwbird · 10/12/2022 21:32

I think sometimes it's the behaviour of the fans and supporters who don't do England any favours. I'm Welsh and would normally support England but then I heard about the sun advertising in support of the England team on buses in France and I just don't want to be associated with it! It made me want France to win to piss people like that off

Rainbowshit · 10/12/2022 21:34

Agree. I'm Scottish and I burn with shame at the ABE attitude.

Bonjovispyjamas · 10/12/2022 21:36

It's so childish 🙄

Daydreamer12345 · 10/12/2022 21:36

BashfulClam · 10/12/2022 21:30

Throughout the World Cup the England campaign has been rammed down our throats. I’d like to know about some other teams.

Presumably you live in the UK so what would you expect?

I’ve always cheered for Scotland/Ireland/Wales (when not playing England obviously) I just don’t get why you wouldn’t.

Weird attitude

VinoDino · 10/12/2022 21:37

I'm Scottish. I think with previous teams, your Beckhams, Rooney etc and the way they acted. The cheating, the overt designer bling and wealth, their WAG's never out the headlines, they were unlikeable. The fans were yobs.

This squad however appear to be inoffensive young family men. I (and many other Scottish people I know) like them. However it's the bloody media ramming it down our throats every 2 seconds and 'it's coming home'. It was, and would be relentless.

Do feel sorry for them tonight.

MichelleScarn · 10/12/2022 21:38

It's ridiculous, and embarrassing.@BashfulClam who's stopping you find out about other teams?

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 10/12/2022 21:39

I think football has a tendency to kick common sense out of the window ⚽

Don't give a hoot who wins the World Cup or any other tournament.

girlmom21 · 10/12/2022 21:39

BashfulClam · 10/12/2022 21:30

Throughout the World Cup the England campaign has been rammed down our throats. I’d like to know about some other teams.

Who's ramming it down your throat? The coverage I've seen has been very balanced across all remaining teams.

UrsulaPandress · 10/12/2022 21:40

I’m English but of Irish heritage.

I really enjoy the fact that the other nations of the unions hate us so much.

Crack on I say.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/12/2022 21:40

BashfulClam · 10/12/2022 21:30

Throughout the World Cup the England campaign has been rammed down our throats. I’d like to know about some other teams.

Can't you watch those matches and coverage that have been shown for the other teams?

Helpyou · 10/12/2022 21:41

I can't see England supporting Wales if Wales had got further in the world Cup do you? (Note, I'm not a football fan at all) but it works both ways.

Mañanarama · 10/12/2022 21:41

Why don’t we have a UK team? That would make more sense and prevent the England / Scotland / Wales divide.

Daydreamer12345 · 10/12/2022 21:42

Helpyou · 10/12/2022 21:41

I can't see England supporting Wales if Wales had got further in the world Cup do you? (Note, I'm not a football fan at all) but it works both ways.

I think that’s the point though, speaking generally and in my experience it really doesn’t

DdraigGoch · 10/12/2022 21:42

VinoDino · 10/12/2022 21:37

I'm Scottish. I think with previous teams, your Beckhams, Rooney etc and the way they acted. The cheating, the overt designer bling and wealth, their WAG's never out the headlines, they were unlikeable. The fans were yobs.

This squad however appear to be inoffensive young family men. I (and many other Scottish people I know) like them. However it's the bloody media ramming it down our throats every 2 seconds and 'it's coming home'. It was, and would be relentless.

Do feel sorry for them tonight.

You say that, but "ABE" is still a thing among some rugby fans and there's generally much better conduct from the players.

BMW6 · 10/12/2022 21:42

I'm English and I certainly would support Wales!

healthadvice123 · 10/12/2022 21:43

@BashfulClam like who ? When there not part of the uK
Im pretty sure in france its all france etc

RJnomore1 · 10/12/2022 21:44

VinoDino · 10/12/2022 21:37

I'm Scottish. I think with previous teams, your Beckhams, Rooney etc and the way they acted. The cheating, the overt designer bling and wealth, their WAG's never out the headlines, they were unlikeable. The fans were yobs.

This squad however appear to be inoffensive young family men. I (and many other Scottish people I know) like them. However it's the bloody media ramming it down our throats every 2 seconds and 'it's coming home'. It was, and would be relentless.

Do feel sorry for them tonight.

This.

imagine if they won the bloody thing. It would be unbearable.

i feel sorry for the players.

BashfulClam · 10/12/2022 21:44

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/12/2022 21:40

Can't you watch those matches and coverage that have been shown for the other teams?

I have and then the commentators during half time and full time talk about England. Last world cup during the very first match (England weren’t playing), it got to half time and the commentary was ‘Let’s go over to Gabby in the England camp!’ Why? Then they talked about Gareth Southgate at full time, again why, they hadn’t even played a game yet?

Travis1 · 10/12/2022 21:44

Because they still can’t shut up
about 1966 and the media ram it down our throats at every opportunity.

it’s like in other sports if a Scottish person does well they’re British but as soon as they fuck up they’re Scottish. It’s wearing

Helpyou · 10/12/2022 21:45

BMW6 · 10/12/2022 21:42

I'm English and I certainly would support Wales!

And I'm welsh but have links to England and was rooting for them today because I know my English links would be chuffed. But many Welsh and many English wouldn't!

healthadvice123 · 10/12/2022 21:45

@Helpyou well it shows as england fans always used to wiish the other nations to do well, unless playing agains them

Travis1 · 10/12/2022 21:46

RJnomore1 · 10/12/2022 21:44

This.

imagine if they won the bloody thing. It would be unbearable.

i feel sorry for the players.

Oh god yes. DH and I were talking about how unbearable next years friendly would be if they had won the World Cup.

Falalalalaaah · 10/12/2022 21:46

I'm not English, but I do live in England. Although I would never do that whole "I support whoever is playing against England" crap, I would not cheer on England in any sport really, as I'm not English. I would cheer on my own country whoever they are playing and that's it. Keep it simple!

I don't know any English people who actually would actively cheer for Wales / Scotland / Ireland unless they have a connection to one of those countries, but I'm sure some of them do