To think the anyone but England mentality is cringe?

[SolitaryMind]

I’m Scottish, I was brought up to be anti English, SNP mad household, despite having English grandparents. I’ve always thought it made no sense, England is part of the UK like we are. I now have an English dp who is step- parent to my child, I support England in football as does my dc, every match my social media is filled with support for any country playing against England, I don’t get it! Can someone explain the logic to me, I can’t be the only one surely!

I think it's largely to do with the fans and their behavior. I am not an ABE, I tend to root for an underdog and on occasion that has been England. But the behavior of English football fans at times is abhorrent. The level of abuse they give players who 'cost them' the win is a perfect example.

It even extends to rugby now, my group of friends has actually stopped watching Ireland v England games in pubs as it is increasingly full of loutish English fans who smugly shout and hurl abuse at complete fucking strangers. Then dramatically huff and. Blame their loss on a biased ref, or the other team cheating or feigning injuries that any other team winning is just them getting lucky. It just sucks the fun out of it all.

I guess a lot of people have concluded if the fans are sore losers, they will be even worse winners.

As an English person I wholeheartedly disagree.

Andy Murray anything = A whinging pain in the arse with the personality of a lump of jelly.

I'm Irish and although I can't say I'd support England in the football I'm not invested in seeing them lose either. I know that my brothers (who support Premiership clubs) were cheering them on. In a gentle and neighbourly fashion, not in a 'it's coming home' way. But plenty won't have been too.

I forgot the match was on tbh. I had all my excitement with Argentina v Netherlands last night. And I've been cheering Maroc on too!

@LargeglassofRosePlease it's really not...it's to do with 'it's coming home' x1000

I’ve watched most thanks. In your post you didn’t say they’ve talked about the 1966 win all through World Cup footage. (Which is obviously very likely they will, isn’t it. Duh)

you said the media ram it down our throats at every opportunity- which is just nonsense

I agree that this current England team is a lot easier to like than John Terry et al.

@Daydreamer12345 I wouldn't be so confident with the BBC either 🥴

Do you live in Scotland?

I’m no football pundit but I like Gareth Southgate and I like this team. When you look at their professionalism (relative to the French team who gave away 2 penalties and several fouls), they are a ‘team’ and act accordingly. I’m proud of what they did even if they didn’t win, don’t think we were beaten by a better side on the night per se, just didn’t convert our chances. I am not proud of some fans behaviour or some of the media coverage.

I support England but wholeheartedly cheer on any home nation if they’re playing and that’s my default - am always surprised that isn’t what everyone does. Born in England, Irish heritage/passport.

@AbsolutelyFuckingSick you're kidding right? Andy Murray has a brilliant personality. Dry sense of humour but a great role model and dedicated sportsman

No, I can see why the English are disliked and I'm English

I call it the Scottish Daily Record mentality!

We will have to agree to disagree on that one I'm afraid 😂

I support England but wholeheartedly cheer on any home nation if they’re playing and that’s my default - am always surprised that isn’t what everyone does. Born in England, Irish heritage/passport.

I don't support England, NI or Wales because I am Scottish. End of. I don't care that they are home nations. And I'm not even a nationalist.

@MatronicO6 ever seen how teams in europe act ?
Also my welsh friends went to a scottish rugby match and weee hounded and abused , said they actually felt very unsafe as few girls in group
So no nation is perfect

I’m English and I wouldn’t blame anyone for the Anyone But England approach tbh. It’s the relentlessness of the coverage, the moronic jingoism and “it’s coming home” and the constant whining about losing.

I have tons of respect for this particular England squad but most England fans are pathetic.

I love that people don't get Andy Murray's dry sense of humour and wit!

Kind of agree. Obviously the majority of fans are fine, but there is a streak of awful behaviour from a small minority, so I understand how it can be off putting to some.
Obviously not the teams fault, though!

@VinoDino I'm astounded that people don't get him...I think he's ace

I’m not sure you’re replying to the right person. I didn’t post anything by from the BBC.

No, I don’t live in Scotland

Whenever England competitors are either not in, or are knocked out, of any kind of sporting endeavour and any of the other home nations remain in the competition, then we will follow them and cheer them on instead. We wouldn't take gleeful delight in their defeat and cheer the opposition.

It appears that not all people think the same way. Rather sad, really.

@Daydreamer12345 apologies, that was to @IrmaGord

The problem is the mentality. Scotland goes into these things expecting to get put out so enjoy themselves and have a laugh.
England go in thinking they are the best team and it’s a walk in the park.
I will always support the underdog, if someone says this will be easy then a desperately hope they lose over someone being humble!

Jealousy maybe. They can’t win so they don’t want England to win.

It was exactly like this when he won Wimbledon. Looking at it from outside of the UK it is so obvious in the media.

What do you do when England/Wales/Ireland play a different country? Do you just sit on the fence and ignore it? Or are you one of those arses who will cheer on whichever other country it is, just for the sake of it.