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Joe Biden

268 replies

Helendee · 23/07/2021 12:55

Genuinely interested in what people think of him and his presidency thus far. It’s a truth universally acknowledged that Trump was considered lower than a worm’s privates on Mumsnet but there seems to be little or no excitement about JB, is he really that meh?

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pointythings · 24/07/2021 15:47

This isn't about opinions. It's about facts. Mike Lidell is a known Trump sponsor, so not unbiased. The audit is being carried out by a company owned by a major Trump donor, so not unbiased. These are facts. Facts trump, if you'll pardon the word, opinion.

Classica · 24/07/2021 15:54

If you haven't researched this you wouldn't believe it , why would you. Thats fair enough. Its a journey I have been on ....i would urge you to for onto duck duck go and look at Mike liddell, also newsmax and the audit arizona.

The pillow loon who quacks on like an ex crack cocaine addict who's had a bit of a relapse?

You are a gullible twit.

elp30 · 24/07/2021 15:56

I've not thought too much about him tbh.

And then he came out with this bullshit and he deeply offended me.

I'm Mexican-American, first generation on my father's side (he became an American citizen in 1992) and second generation on my mother's side. I am not Latinx but Chicana specifically and not Chicanx which is asinine and assuming we are all in the US illegally was disgusting.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-racist-latinx-covid-vaccine-b1872748.html

IncorrigibleTitmouse · 24/07/2021 16:06

@Helendee

Genuinely interested in what people think of him and his presidency thus far. It’s a truth universally acknowledged that Trump was considered lower than a worm’s privates on Mumsnet but there seems to be little or no excitement about JB, is he really that meh?
As an immigrant to the US I feel much safer here under Biden. He's also made some calls that were high on my personal concerns list, such as rejoining the Paris Accord and cancelling Keystone XL.

As others have said, it's just nice not to have the drama we had for the past four years. Where I live, at least, the Trumpists are still out in force though.

334bu · 24/07/2021 16:09

Because of his policies female prisoners are being forced to share cells with violent male prisoners. Enough said.

Truthseeker34 · 24/07/2021 16:20

@pointythings

This isn't about opinions. It's about facts. Mike Lidell is a known Trump sponsor, so not unbiased. The audit is being carried out by a company owned by a major Trump donor, so not unbiased. These are facts. Facts trump, if you'll pardon the word, opinion.
I know that liddell supported trumps policy of developing manufacturing in America to stimulate the economy , create jobs etc so yes , he may have been a financial supporter of trump. But how would that explain him pursuing this at great financial and personal cost. I don't get what you are suggesting to be honest. Take the time out to actually look at the evidence from the people on the ground, then come back to me and educate me on the truth
Classica · 24/07/2021 16:22

Embarrassing QAnon shit.

A maniacal pillow salesman is your saviour. Where you go one, you go all.

Theluggage15 · 24/07/2021 16:24

He’s horrible. Not surprised someone like him was so keen to let men have access to female only spaces. His stammer has zero to do with talking absolute nonsense, no wonder he doesn’t court the media. It’s not a plus point in his case.

Truthseeker34 · 24/07/2021 16:25

@Classica

If you haven't researched this you wouldn't believe it , why would you. Thats fair enough. Its a journey I have been on ....i would urge you to for onto duck duck go and look at Mike liddell, also newsmax and the audit arizona.

The pillow loon who quacks on like an ex crack cocaine addict who's had a bit of a relapse?

You are a gullible twit.

What a generous , warm person you are. He overcame addiction and became a multi millionaire. He is sacrificing everything to do this , and you belittle him and mock his addiction issues which he had years and years ago. Shame on you . He isn't on cracking now , so don't see the relevancy of your point..
Classica · 24/07/2021 16:29

'He is sacrificing everything to do this'

Oh man, that's hilarious! Best of luck to you and your 'former' crack addict pillow saviour.

pigsDOfly · 24/07/2021 16:30

@Cazzovuoi

He’s helped erase women’s sports in the US and puts men’s feelings above the safety of women and girls.

Tells me all I need to know Angry

Yeah, me too.

I was really please when Trump was out and assumed Biden would be a vast improvement.

And then the above happened.

Have absolutely no time for him.

What is it with people in positions of power?

Ghosttile · 24/07/2021 16:40

The bar is set low for Biden because of his predecessor. If he manages not to incite insurrection, not to call white supremacists good people, not to mimic disabled people and not to call war hero’s losers and not to label any fact he finds inconvenient ‘fake news’ he’s a success.

CaptSkippy · 24/07/2021 16:41

He is not just meh, but the return to the usual disfunctional US politics. Complete with the errosion of women's rights and pulling US troops so suddenly out of Afghanistan so the Taliban can take over, causing another slew of refugees fleeing the country.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 24/07/2021 16:42

Why do you feel the need to try and belittle someone with a different opinion to you- bless What is that about ? Mike liddell has lost millions and millions pursuing this , did you know that ? He has been dropped by pretty much all of the retailers that stocked his products. His life has been threatened. Has this stopped him - no ! If you don't want to believe it that's fine, if you don't want to do your own independent research and apply critical thinking, thats up to you . However I would appreciate if you can so a fellow human being with a difference of opinion some respect and not belittle my opinion.

Why do you keep belittling other people's opinions by telling them they haven't done their own independent research or applied critical thinking?

FightingtheFoo · 24/07/2021 16:55
  • I was really please when Trump was out and assumed Biden would be a vast improvement.

And then the above happened.

Have absolutely no time for him.

What is it with people in positions of power?*

But Biden was very clear he planned to do all of that in his manifesto @pigsDOfly. On his website he even committed to enacting it within his first 100 days in office. And did.

That's why I could not in good conscious support Biden. And if you look at the cold, hard facts so far, Trump was better for women than Biden has been so far. Even all the muttering that Trump planned to roll back abortion rights - it never happened. He never even tried.

FightingtheFoo · 24/07/2021 16:56

*consciousness

Classica · 24/07/2021 16:58

Even all the muttering that Trump planned to roll back abortion rights - it never happened. He never even tried.

Planned Parenthood might beg to differ?

aquashiv · 24/07/2021 16:59

Delighted. He's doing a fantastic job compared to his predecessor. A semen stain on history.

pointythings · 24/07/2021 17:13

Truthseeker you cannot expect people to take your 'research' seriously when you suggest using Newsmax as a source of 'research'. Honestly.

As for abortion rights - you only have to look at Trump's picks for the Supreme Court and the inevitable consequences for Roe vs Wade and you'll see just how 'great' he has been for women's rights. He also reinstated the global gag rule, which impacts women's healthcare across the globe. Good for women, my arse.

hawkehurstgang · 24/07/2021 17:28

He seems very odd. Reluctant or unable to speak clearly/express himself. Rather incoherent.

hawkehurstgang · 24/07/2021 17:31

(I'm not referring to the stammer, rather thr content of what he says).

thegcatsmother · 24/07/2021 17:36

I think we live in interesting times.

I am not sure how long Biden will last as POTUS; there seems to be a groundswell of opinion that he is not all there cognitively. Not sure Harris would be any great improvement.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 24/07/2021 17:38

It’s a sad state of affairs when we’re debating which sex offender, the one who has decimated women’s sport and safety in prisons, the other who sees women as nothing more than sex objects which can be purchased, is a better world leader and has caused the least damage to women.

We need to start demanding MORE

Classica · 24/07/2021 17:40

The claims of sexual assault against Biden were debunked. You cannot draw an equivalency between him and Trump.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 24/07/2021 17:53

@Classica

The claims of sexual assault against Biden were debunked. You cannot draw an equivalency between him and Trump.
I can and I have.

“The claims of sexual assault against Biden were debunked”
Claims against high profile men often are.

He’s a letch. You only have to look at videos of his interactions with very young girls to see their discomfort and hear the inappropriate comments he makes to them.
They have to stand there “being good and kind”. It’s disgusting and I’m fed up of it being normalised or ignored.
Women and girls deserve more than this pile of shit.