Joe Biden

[Helendee]

Genuinely interested in what people think of him and his presidency thus far. It’s a truth universally acknowledged that Trump was considered lower than a worm’s privates on Mumsnet but there seems to be little or no excitement about JB, is he really that meh?

It's nice to have a quiet America it offers global security and less chance of war.

He's concentrating on domestic issues and not getting involved in anything except some meet and greets and a "are we ok, can we be friends" meetings with foreign leaders.

Biden was always going to rack up national debt, due to his politics and political leanings. But he's done the right thing, he's ensured some of the most poor people have had a steady cheque.

He has liberal views on some things, because he's a liberal, there's no shock there. The democrats in the US are now relying on the younger voting demographic so a lot of policy and political ideas will be to capture more of this demographic.

He's a joke...

I remember during Obama's presidency, it was saud that Obama used to sideline him because he couldn't be trusted not to put his foot in it. I guess now that he's let loose, we can see what Obama meant.

I mean I'm no fan of Trump but if he has reacted or said the things that Biden has done and said, or got lost in the middle if sentences like Biden does, he'd be the lead headline on the BBC news, never mind in the USA. An easy ride indeed. American voters like the pp above must be very easily pleased if they think this is competency.

Have you ever seen the vidio of him sniffing little girls hair?
I am not linking this and the fact that he is for the removal of women's rights at all..
Not one bit...

Trump had to go. If anyone had any doubt about that, his speech on the morning after election night should have settled it. Biden was perceived as the most electable replacement, with cross-party and centrist appeal, and he was elected. As for the comments about Harris, her success as a candidate in the primaries has nothing to do with her being chosen as Biden’s running mate. The last time a presidential candidate chose his closest competitor in the primaries as his running mate, it was disastrous (Kerry/Edwards 2004).

Biden's handling of COVID-related efforts is excellent; he really effected a needed turn-around, and that's to be applauded.

Also: The US media is absolute utter shite (and I used to defend it and compare it favourably to the UK media). I’ve not been in the US since early 2019 but when I watched the Biden inauguration on CNN I was baffled to see journalists I previously respected talking (and I have to assume thinking) like ten year olds.

Hedgehopper: As far as I'm aware he has [not] been deliberately inciting racism/ misogynistic/ disablist/ the anti vac movement… Biden is absolutely enabling misogyny and some of his key policies are misogynist. He’s not, as far as I have seen, out to target women specifically - but he also completely ignores the (significantly negative) impact of his policies on vulnerable women in particular and women in general. Biden simply doesn’t care about women at all. I suspect he doesn’t think we’re fully human. But that’s a pretty common view, even among women, so it doesn’t do him much harm.

Also keep in mind when looking at US politics from the UK: every single one of the fifty states has substantially more rights within the federal system than devolved administrations have within the UK framework. And it is baked in to both major parties to defend “states’ rights”. Just for example, Scotland has considerably less autonomy than Rhode Island. So you see a lot of organising at the state and local level, which tends not to get reported internationally, and sometimes US activists just let the federal level run because they’re focused elsewhere.

@TheSkatesOfCoachBombay

It's nice to have a quiet America it offers global security and less chance of war.

I'm willing to bet you felt the warm fuzzies about Obama too, but global security definitely did not increase in his presidency, despite the fact he got the Nobel Peace Prize.

Well, I hope people are happy now that they’ve got what they wanted. Grass isn’t always greener, is what springs to mind.

He is just getting on with things. Thankfully

He isn’t constantly seeking press attention but also he isn’t as interring to report on

The media loved Trump not as in they necessarily supported him but he was a winner for ratings/clickbait Biden isn’t

*interesting to report on

@OhWhyNot

He is just getting on with things. Thankfully

He isn’t constantly seeking press attention but also he isn’t as interring to report on

The media loved Trump not as in they necessarily supported him but he was a winner for ratings/clickbait Biden isn’t

we all know why..

he can barely string a sentence together ..

I like Biden a lot.
He says kind things. He's savvy.
It's interesting how fast he's moving on legislative programme given he knows he really only has about 18m to achieve his legacy. He really hit the ground running, and that's in spite of the obstructive way the previous administration tried so hard to sabotage Transition.
Such a grown up. So refreshing after #45.

I'm worried what happens in January 2025, but I guess we shall see.

That video is uncomfortable to watch as so many of those young girls were uncomfortable. Poor girls

QueenBee I don’t think he was a great candidate and struggle to understand how they had so few to choose from.

@OhWhyNot getting on with what? If you lived here you probably wouldn’t think so. He’s just a puppet and doesn’t actually do anything. His advisors are doing all the work. He can barely string a coherent sentence together.

I have immediate family in the states I know they are happy with how he has managed the Covid situation to w
How Trump was and glad to see the back of Trump who went out of his way to deepen the diversions

All presidents are puppets to some extent. Surely it’s better those around the President are not spending so much time trying to play down or put a different spin on what the President has said that day.

I don't know.. i get trump is not a good person but that shouldn't give biden a free pass.

His smelling the hair and groping of little girls is absolutely disgusting and I don't know how the media (or even on forums like in here) gives him a free pass on it.

It's like they don't care. He could kill someone live on TV and people would still be on here saying he's better than Trump so who cares.

@Truthseeker34

Trumps policies were mostly winners (hard to see with the media against him)... But being a leader of a country isn't only about policy. It's also about messaging and inspiration and other things. He didn't do those things well. He was quite divisive, even if he wasn't a white supremacist himself he definitely invigorated the existing white supremacists in the country. He gave rise the BLM movement and all the rioting, destruction and murder that brought on which was largely an anti trump movement.

Without Trump those things don't happen. Sure his policy on immigration, economy, international relations was all massive winners some of the best policy of recent presidents but when you socially destabilize a country with your messaging.. does any of that matter?

Being a leader is more than just policy.

I mean I'm no fan of Trump but if he has reacted or said the things that Biden has done and said, or got lost in the middle if sentences like Biden does, he'd be the lead headline on the BBC news, never mind in the USA.

The things said (and tweeted) by Trump were insulting, shameless, dangerous and nonsensical and he did make the headlines for them just about every day all over the world. It’s ridiculous to draw a parallel between the things said by him and by Biden.

QueenBee I don’t think he was a great candidate and struggle to understand how they had so few to choose from.

It would have been madness for any aspiring young Democrat politician to stand against Trump, with the lies, slurs, name-calling and character assassination it would have resulted in. Even if they had won there would have been an uphill battle throughout their tenure against the Trump influence and its corruption of thought and morals in the Republican Party. American politics can be very dirty in normal times but Trump has turned it into a cesspit. Biden was an old man with a distinguished career, a good character as these things go, and a direct contrast to Trump on every level. Comparisons were easy to make. It turns out he’s rather different from expected - far more radical and proactive - and has handled the pandemic well, putting the ordinary American first.

@borntobequiet

QueenBee I don’t think he was a great candidate and struggle to understand how they had so few to choose from.

It would have been madness for any aspiring young Democrat politician to stand against Trump, with the lies, slurs, name-calling and character assassination it would have resulted in. Even if they had won there would have been an uphill battle throughout their tenure against the Trump influence and its corruption of thought and morals in the Republican Party. American politics can be very dirty in normal times but Trump has turned it into a cesspit. Biden was an old man with a distinguished career, a good character as these things go, and a direct contrast to Trump on every level. Comparisons were easy to make. It turns out he’s rather different from expected - far more radical and proactive - and has handled the pandemic well, putting the ordinary American first.

It wasn't a young democrat though he was up against it was Bernie Sanders. I absolutely despise Bernie Sanders' policies and he would have been disastrous for the country but he is mentally competent and he is a good person.

I wasn't a fan if his during primaries, and would have rather Elizabeth Warren, but have been pleasantly surprised. His admin has been extremely effective with the vaccine roll-out, now hampered by the right wing, republican anti Vax stance, which looks like even they are starting to regret. His infrastructure plan is pretty good, if they manage to get that through with some republican support it will be a big achievement, and more than Trump ever got close to, despite promising infrastructure week on a regular basis. I like the ideas behind the family plan, hopefully that gets done through reconciliation and will have a positive impact on women's lives with universal pre k, paid family leave, more child care so is very substantive.

@Mockolate

He’s helped erase women’s sports in the US and puts men’s feelings above the safety of women and girls.

Also translates as he is inclusive of trans people, but, yay, let's completely gloss over that and dismiss as "men's feelings"
I'm female, white, straight, not trans, but a million times would rather Biden be in office than Trump and his discriminating shite anyday.

Are you a professional sports woman?

He has a stammer which he has had to work very hard to overcome

So cognitive decline. He used to be very well spoken, even his debates as Obama’s VP he was a very different person.

@UsedUpUsername

He has a stammer which he has had to work very hard to overcome

So cognitive decline. He used to be very well spoken, even his debates as Obama’s VP he was a very different person.

Ha ha ha.

So a stammer at an early age is a sign of cognitive decline, is it? I’m sure posting bollocks on Internet forums is a more reliable sign.

This reads like a Trump love thread.

Really disconcerting from an outside view, given his lies and denial of the election results, nevermind all of the corruption. He caused significant civil unrest and to be blatant, the entire world pretty much lost all respect for America.

Didn't Trump close down the international pandemic response team a few months prior to covid? Oh and his record on covid was great yeah? If you look at the actual facts, not his false claims.

Wow.

My cat would be less dangerous than that man.

So a stammer at an early age is a sign of cognitive decline, is it? I’m sure posting bollocks on Internet forums is a more reliable sign

No, but IF he had a stammer, he had it well under control for the vast majority of his political life. So what does it say about his cognitive state when he suddenly can’t control it?

I think you know what it means.

Cognitive decline.