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Matt Hancock affair (3)

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TheoMeo · 27/06/2021 08:05

Surely you would have cameras in a Government building and surely pointing it at doorways between different areas or departments isn't a bad idea.
It looks like a screenshot of a cctv security camera monitor.

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Roussette · 27/06/2021 08:59

Very few of us have been as pure as the cold driven snow through lockdown

Most of us have broken a few rules in one way or another

Quite likely.

But those people aren't setting the rules for the whole of the general public are they?
You must get the hypocrisy surely...

IheartJKR · 27/06/2021 09:00

@LittleBearPad

What are the rumours about Gove please?

BiscoffAddict · 27/06/2021 09:01

For a woman who’s husband has just left her, and publicly humiliated her in the process Mrs Hancock doesn’t appear to be all that bothered. Maybe she’s secretly relieved that he’s buggered off? Though I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he doesn’t come him with his tail between his legs sooner rather than later,

Interestingly MH grew up near me and his Dad left his mum for another woman, who he married, when MH was very young. This is probably normal for him!

bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 09:02

@lemonwoe the general public breaking a few rules is very different to a government minister who is making the rules breaking them....when people can't say goodbye to dying loved ones, then to see him with his tongue down someone's throat..how disrespectful n insulting is that? He can go have 10 affairs no one cares, but really see it in context.

BiscoffAddict · 27/06/2021 09:03

Gove is rumoured to have had gay affairs I believe? Diane Abbott has also been dropping huge hints on social media about it and I can’t say I blame her given how the Tory press have treated her.

LittleBearPad · 27/06/2021 09:03

[quote IheartJKR]@LittleBearPad

What are the rumours about Gove please?[/quote]
That he has moved out and is living with a special adviser. Diane Abbott had some fun last night at his expense

Matt Hancock affair (3)
PicsInRed · 27/06/2021 09:03

Pottedpalm

There have been photos of the camera in the office this morning. MI5 have stated that it's a police matter (i.e. not a security matter for them).

Many cheaters get arrogant and careless and end up with the entire office knowing. Hancock's just bog standard in that respect.

Roussette · 27/06/2021 09:04

Biscoff I agree. I have a theory, but no knowledge. I imagine this affair has been going on quite a while.

Mrs Hancock would obviously know her husband's Uni 'friend' had started working with him, I think she was taken on in December 2020? The marriage could well have been imploding before all this grubby footage came to light.

LittleBearPad · 27/06/2021 09:04

@BiscoffAddict

For a woman who’s husband has just left her, and publicly humiliated her in the process Mrs Hancock doesn’t appear to be all that bothered. Maybe she’s secretly relieved that he’s buggered off? Though I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he doesn’t come him with his tail between his legs sooner rather than later,

Interestingly MH grew up near me and his Dad left his mum for another woman, who he married, when MH was very young. This is probably normal for him!

Are you expecting her to be sobbing in the street? Hmm
HeronLanyon · 27/06/2021 09:04

I ha want etched the video which bvs is embedded in loads of online new stories. Feel it would just be excruciating and I would never be be to unsee it. Has anyone watched and managed to carry on a halfway normal life ?

IheartJKR · 27/06/2021 09:06

Thank you 🙏

I feel like I’ve been living under a rock lately -

Wow 😮

Definitely a piece directed to one person.

Backhills · 27/06/2021 09:08

If Gove has moved out to live with someone else then he's done the right thing? Hasn't he? At least that's what MN always says.

I also think it's highly unlikely Hancock's wife didn't know. They could have had an arrangement, which obviously couldn't continue after this. This could even have been deliberate on the part of one or both of them to bring things to a head. Although what a way to go!

Pottedpalm · 27/06/2021 09:09

@HeronLanyon

I ha want etched the video which bvs is embedded in loads of online new stories. Feel it would just be excruciating and I would never be be to unsee it. Has anyone watched and managed to carry on a halfway normal life ?
A little over dramatic!
BiscoffAddict · 27/06/2021 09:09

@Roussette

Biscoff I agree. I have a theory, but no knowledge. I imagine this affair has been going on quite a while.

Mrs Hancock would obviously know her husband's Uni 'friend' had started working with him, I think she was taken on in December 2020? The marriage could well have been imploding before all this grubby footage came to light.

Yeah. No way has this only been going on for a few weeks. A journalist tweeted a video of him and Gina at an event together from December 2019 where you see him tap her arm and they leave together, the journalist wondered who she was and assumed she was his wife.
bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 09:09

@heronlanyon you will never be able to unsee it, protect yourself !

HeronLanyon · 27/06/2021 09:11

potted purposely !
bonfire noted, ta.

bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 09:13

That last line in the PM's letter is making some wonder if he will be back like Priti and Gavin Williamson...
But honestly there needs to be huge inquiry into all this "nepotism", not just MH but all of them including Dido Harding and Dominic Cummings

Regulus · 27/06/2021 09:14

Why has Mrs Hancock been publicly humiliated? She has done nothing wrong, I think we need to move away from the narrative that if your husband can't control his cock then the innocent party is humiliated.
Humiliation is MH behaviour in front of those cameras.

Roussette · 27/06/2021 09:16

Gosh, he's not popular in his constituency.

"He's lower than a snake's belly"

They are furious

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/26/hes-lower-than-a-snakes-belly-newmarkets-view-of-matt-hancock-their-embattled-local-mp

“He has absolutely no shame,” said Carol Haverley, who was walking her dogs on the green alongside the racecourse on Saturday afternoon. “It’s not enough that he’s handed all those contracts and jobs to his friends and family – now we have proof he’s not even paying attention to such an important job because he’s too busy having it off with someone else’s wife.

“It’s disgusting. Everything about him is sleazy.”

In town, at the Guineas shopping centre, Hancock’s constituents were angry when asked what they made of their MP’s behaviour. “He’s lower than a snake’s belly,” said health and social care worker Claire O’Neill. “He’s rude, he’s inept, he’s self-serving. He managed to hang on because he’s so in with the local elite here, but he’s absolutely sickening.”

MobyDicksTinyCanoe · 27/06/2021 09:18

Don't know about anyone else but I keep thinking of that poor family who had to let their 13 year old son die alone...... They respected those rules with such dignity it broke my heart.

And then we have the idiots that are giving out orders completely flouting them for a game of tonsil tennis and quick grope.

People have affairs, fine. It's shit but it happens but ffs. He could have picked his timing a bit better. Hmm

DysonSphere · 27/06/2021 09:18

@PicsInRed

It's just occurred to me - did Hancock have both a financial and personal interest to extend lockdown and then restrictions? I wonder what Whitty and Valance have to say, did they agree with him, or did they have concerns?

It's extremely stark that Hancock's mates were getting rich off covid and he was getting his end away and this set Hancock up for doantions to campaigns and then mate's jobs when he eventually left politics (see: David Cameron).

Did Hancock extend restrictions unnecessarily? That's a question which should be asked.

^This 100%

There must be an inquiry, or it must become part of the official inquiry into the Covid Pandemic and how it was handled. His not giving correct info at the right time before the debate on extending partial lockdown pass June - my brain is mushy I forget the details - is highly suspect in hindsight.

As more emerges, the fact that Boris actually stated he 'considered the matter closed' and gave his support begins to appear almost like deliberate incompetence. What was he thinking?!

ancientgran · 27/06/2021 09:19

I think cock up (excuse that please) is far more likely than conspiracy. One version is that it was normal security cctv, being pointed at a door is logical, and a disgruntled member of staff got hold of the footage and decided to act as whistleblower and release it. Having worked in the public sector that always seemed the most likely explanation to me.

Johnson setting him up? No he's lost his fall guy not to mention would he want this coming out days before a byelection.

Foreign power looking for state secrets getting this as a bonus? Not likely, if you were after state secrets I'd think you'd point the camera at his desk not his door and why would they blow their cover?

Cock up it is, he hasn't got the sense to realise that the camera would film him and be far more useful to think of that than peering round the door.

MagicSummer · 27/06/2021 09:19

The whole saga is a very salutary lesson showing how one's fortunes can change so completely in 48 hours.

Peregrina · 27/06/2021 09:20

Most of us have broken a few rules in one way or another.

I wouldn't say most.We were extremely compliant at first. Those of us who did may have done so by accident since we never knew which was law and which was advice with rules changing every five minutes.

The people writing the laws can't use that excuse.

bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 09:21

That @MobyDicksTinyCanoe. It scares me how quickly those that died seemed to have forgotten about, with all these gimmicks of Eat Out to Help Out and Freedom Day :/
My aunt got covid, caused a blood clot, caused a stroke. In hospital for months, we were told she wouldn't make it, no one allowed to see her.

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