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Matt Hancock affair (3)

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TheoMeo · 27/06/2021 08:05

Surely you would have cameras in a Government building and surely pointing it at doorways between different areas or departments isn't a bad idea.
It looks like a screenshot of a cctv security camera monitor.

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bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 10:07

@BiscoffAddict he did student radio when at uni which is where he met affair partner cos she read the news whilst he did sport, so do wonder about his media aspirations.

Maggiesfarm · 27/06/2021 10:09

I only glanced at headlines this morning but apparently Hancock and Gina are 'serious' about each other and there is going to be an enquiry to try to find who leaked the picture.

Honestly, I don't feel any better off for knowing about this sordid business. It gives people something to 'tut' about but such things happen in every organisation all the time and are nobody else's business. I despise him and her but also whoever took the pictures and circulated them, I can't imagine doing that in a million years.

Roussette · 27/06/2021 10:09

Why is Diane Abbot 'a disgusting human being'?

Is it because of that Mojito she drunk on the train?

Sostenueto · 27/06/2021 10:10

Cummings said that Hancock had made shady deals on PPE using taxpayers money at his appearance in front of Parliamentary committee and they asked him for proof which he had 3 weeks to produce. So the thing is as Hancock was using a private email for these deals and avoiding the official Government e mail system (thus breaking ministerial code) Cummings would have been hard put to find the evidence in time. So, being as it's now leaked was it one of Cummings contacts ( as people in Government including Boris knew Hancock was using a private email address) leaking it themselves or did they give info to Cummings to leak?

LittleBearPad · 27/06/2021 10:10

@lljkk

threat addressed solely to one person

what is the threat? "If you leave me for OW I will spill all your intimate secrets in my column"? As if Gove wasn't already widely parodied and loathed, and he wouldn't be trashing his own rep further by leaving for OW?

Threats are not a good basis for solid future measure; a "threat" like that is likely to make someone leave sooner.

It’s a character assassination by a wife on her husband. Gove is an ambitious politician - he’s been put on a warning by his wife.
Maggiesfarm · 27/06/2021 10:12

@Roussette

Why is Diane Abbot 'a disgusting human being'?

Is it because of that Mojito she drunk on the train?

Diane Abbott is very far from being 'a disgusting human being'. I don't know where that came from. Her constituents don't think so and she has always worked tirelessly for them. My only concern about her is her health but she does seem to have addressed that after her diabetes was out of control for a while.

Who will be picked on next?

GrassPollenIsTheDeathStar · 27/06/2021 10:12

When my husband was getting scanned for his unprovoked blood clot he was asked if he had had covid. It was originally one of the reasons he was given that he may have got it.

IheartJKR · 27/06/2021 10:12

@Octopuscake

Very few of us have been as pure as the cold driven snow through lockdown

I disagree actually- I think there have been many many acts of quiet heroism and most people have stepped up.

People reassuring their old parents by phone, people forfeiting seeing beloved grandchildren when they don't know how many years they have left to spend with them, people working 20 hour days for months so they can care for children and keep their jobs...people keeping their mental health afloat, alone in small flats for weeks on end without so much as a friendly hug. People getting up and going into work delivering food. Imagine the bravery of showing up for your bus driving shift as an obese man, age 50, from an ethnicity known to be more likely to die, with a young family at home to support, knowing 20% of your colleagues have already been hospitalised. And that's without even touching on nurses, doctors, paramedics, health staff.

Hancock's flagrant disregard for everyone else's sacrifice is the scumbag's failure. Cunt.

All of this^^
Blossomtoes · 27/06/2021 10:13

@Peregrina

That was a cheap shot by Diane Abbott imo.

Yes, it was but given the vilification she has had to put up with over the years, I can see why she was tempted.

Absolutely. It must be a pleasant change not to be on the receiving end of all the vitriol.
Sostenueto · 27/06/2021 10:16

In the sunday Telegraph

Reports in the sun yesterday suggested Hancock and coladangelo were seen in a second steamy clinch in his office 2 weeks ago and an intimate dinner 6 days after photo in May was seen to have took place. He installed her in 2019 so to run home to his wife yesterday and say affair was only since May is yet another lie. In the next few days more will be leaked ( as planned) but the big question still remains who decided on the timing of the leaks?

C130 · 27/06/2021 10:16

If I had to compile a list of "disgusting human beings" Diane Abbot would not even enter my thoughts.

Notonthestairs · 27/06/2021 10:17

Wasn't Diane Abbot responding to Sarah Vines article about politicians marriages and which itself threw up some interesting questions about their marriage.

Either way I can't be bothered to pay Abbot much attention when Hancock was negotiating contracts outside of government servers in direct contradiction to proper processes.

bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 10:17

such things happen in every organisation all the time and are nobody else's business

He is working for taxpayer, she is also being paid for by taxpayer money. I don't care if thr CEO for Tesco is having an affair. I do care if it is the man in charge of health and an aide in a public building.
Would you be forgiving if he was a chief of police snogging an assistant in police time in a police station when he should be working?
Or a paramedic?
Or a doctor??

MothExterminator · 27/06/2021 10:17

I think labelling Diane Abbot “a disgusting human being” is awful and wrong on all levels. And I would have been delighted to join her with a matching Mojito.

I do disagree with her stance of trying to abolish private schools and grammar schools whilst sending her own son private. I think that is another hypocrisy from the ruling classes that we don’t need. I think Diane said something along the line “black mums really love their children and would do anything for them”. Well… I would argue that we all love our children….

I just think that politicians who argue for a certain set of rules /standard/ etc should hold themselves to these rules.

Then, on a very personal level, I have nothing at all against Diane Abbot but I think that (based on my understanding) Matt Hancock is a scumbag for the way he broke up his marriage and I feel so sorry for his children reading about their dad in the papers. And having comments on it from their friends.

RealhousewifeofStoke · 27/06/2021 10:18

@Roussette

Why is Diane Abbot 'a disgusting human being'?

Is it because of that Mojito she drunk on the train?

Ah that’s ok then. Snide Twitter comments specifically about someones sexuality are ok. Diane Abbot is a lovely person.
bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 10:19

I don't think she was making a snide comment about his sexuality, more about his morals.

C130 · 27/06/2021 10:20

Realhousewifeofstoke. It does not make her what you called her. That was out of line.

Backhills · 27/06/2021 10:21

The argument for abolishing private and grammar school is that if they didn't exist states schools would be better though. So sending her child to private school in a world where state schools are poor and private schools still exist is not hypocritical. The fact that it's "necessary" is the very point of her argument.

lljkk · 27/06/2021 10:23

"It’s a character assassination by a wife on her husband."

Which part of Gove's character was assassinated? I don't see a specific statement in Vine's article about her own marriage or husband or even her personal experiences. Anybody could have written that article - it's an opinion piece, really. Philosophical. There was nothing personal in it.

There's a lot of specifics about SamCam - is the character assassination aimed at SamCam, maybe? Is Vine's assassination supposed to be a hint that Gove is the sort who would choose power over his family?

DateLoaf · 27/06/2021 10:24

Ugh. So grubby the whole thing.I remember all those ‘can you look them in the eye and tell them you’re social distancing’ government posters with really ill people on them that Matt Hancock’s department would have signed off. The arrogance and hypocrisy is massive, much like with Cummings and his ‘eye tests’.

I also really hate it that people in politics having affairs which is a really shitty thing to do personally to their kids and partners/spouses (assuming spouse unaware) is no longer something to judge apparently now we have Boris Johnson massive philanderer in power.

Actually it shows a massive lack of integrity and bad character not to just split up with your partner first before fucking other people and constantly lying to everyone around you. And it IS important to me as a voter that politicians are not just all lying scumbags. It IS important how Boris Johnson behaves in his personal life. He and they run our country. They make decisions on our behalf based on their own life experience. They represent us around the world. Their personal ethics are likely to affect their professional conduct too.

If the Goves have split up and then moved on with other people thats fine and their own business, I don’t care.

hamstersarse · 27/06/2021 10:27

@Backhills

How would Hannock have benefited from extending lockdown any more than by ending it?

Surely an affair is easier in a world where hotel stays and after work functions are the norm and there would be just as many "business" opportunities coming out of renewed freedoms and a recovery plan as out of lockdown.

Political gain. They have extended the restrictions beyond what is necessary. All of Europe, the US, pretty much everywhere else is fully open.

And given they don’t follow the rules themselves, it doesn’t affect them. It’s only us plebs who’ve been following the rules, sorry guidance

LittleBearPad · 27/06/2021 10:28

Example quote @lljkk

Despite his [David Cameron’s] years in power, she – and their children – never just became background noise, also-rans in his busy, important life.

In a way that was unique among all the senior politicians I have ever known, he [David Cameron] was absolutely brilliant at carving out time for his family.

Note Michael Gove is also a senior politician but apparently a bit shit about carving out time for his family.

RealhousewifeofStoke · 27/06/2021 10:29

@C130

Realhousewifeofstoke. It does not make her what you called her. That was out of line.
Luckily I don’t rely on some random MNer to tell me off like a schoolchild Hmm
MothExterminator · 27/06/2021 10:30

I can sort of see some point of that but I still disagree. She is arguing for something which will not impact her own children. She happily sends her own son private whilst preventing parents with younger children to do the same.

I think she should have worked tirelessly to improve schools in general and her son’s school in particular. I am sure that she could have had a massive impact on whichever school he went to.

And I think that grammar schools could remain if there was some kind of a mechanism to ensure a higher proportion of working class children.

I still think it is hypocritical but I accept that there is a counter argument.

newnortherner111 · 27/06/2021 10:31

@bonfireheart it is the kind of rekindled relationship that was written about when Friends Reunited was widely used (early noughties?), where someone leaves their wife or husband for someone they knew at school or university/

The use of government funds, the failure to make a declaration of interest (which could have been 'we worked on student radio together', nothing romantic implied), the award of contracts to family members, these are where the real inquiries including criminal ones should be made.

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