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Matt Hancock affair (3)

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TheoMeo · 27/06/2021 08:05

Surely you would have cameras in a Government building and surely pointing it at doorways between different areas or departments isn't a bad idea.
It looks like a screenshot of a cctv security camera monitor.

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AncientandFabulous · 27/06/2021 08:39

We were out with friends last night & discussed this. The consensus was at the Johnson has set Hancock up.

But his poor wife - what a nasty piece of work MH is. Such a betrayal from the person you are meant to trust the most. I hope she has good support around her.

bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 08:39

Oh and he gets £17k for resigning.

Backhills · 27/06/2021 08:40

I agree completely that it's very concerning if there are hidden cameras in government buildings, but if they were there for covert monitoring of government business, would those same people make it known that they were there for the sake of exposing a minister's affair? How/why would the pictures have ended up in the hands of the press in that scenario?

They could have been used to blackmail him of course, but why would they have been released?

If it was CCTV that raises many questions about security too.

And actually, I'm surprised at the Sun. Not really, but with the aftermath of the phone hacking thing and the restrictions "everyone" wants on the press, this can only be harmful to freedom of the press surely?

Backhills · 27/06/2021 08:42

@PersonaNonGarter

It WASNT cctv footage. It was hidden in the smoke detector.

He was spied on.

How can you possibly know this?
PhilCornwall1 · 27/06/2021 08:43

He and his OW now have no job and no homes...hope a freeze has been put on his bank account before he starts splashing the cash on a love nest

Unfortunately he still does have a pretty well paid job and another property in Suffolk.

PicsInRed · 27/06/2021 08:43

[quote bonfireheart]twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1408887311484473352?s=19[/quote]
The comments, I'm crying 🤣🤣🤣

"When is he setting up an OnlyFans?"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lemonwoe · 27/06/2021 08:45

I personally don’t think he should have to resign for having an affair. Being shit at his job... yeah... having an affair ... nah..

Still, he’s left his wife for her. Wonder if that’s what she actually wanted? Imagine being stuck with him

Backhills · 27/06/2021 08:46

@LunaNorth

He totally wanted this to happen, even on a subconscious level.

He must have known they were frotting in full view of CCTV. It’s a govt building, FFS.

And being Health Secretary must have been crap, especially when you’re as shit at it as he was.

He’s basically pressed the self-destruct button. Now he’ll skip away and leave his mess behind.

I have wondered if it was a bit of a breakdown. A way to escape from what must have been an incredibly stressful job, whatever you think of him, especially if he was also unhappy in his personal life. Obviously not a good plan and cruel to their families but rational thought doesn't always come into play.

If it was CCTV it's surely not possible that they both didn't know the camera was there. I wonder if they both orchestrated it together? Far fetched?

SophieB100 · 27/06/2021 08:46

I feel sorry for both injured spouses in this. Awful for them. A marriage breakdown is horrible, but this one is being poured over by the media. And the kids will be suffering too.

Hancock is a coward, I can imagine him racing home to tell his wife, not through any duty, loyalty or respect to her, but to get home before a journalist had told her. Horrible little man. Then waking up a sleeping child to tell them...all of it is awful, and selfish of him.

It isn't just a matter of how it was filmed, was it planted, was it from the usual CCTV...it got to The Sun. It got into the hands of the Sun. I wonder when? I wonder how? That's the big question here, if security within Whitehall saw this, how did it make that leap to a tabloid newspaper? If it was planted ... by whom? How? This happened over 7 weeks ago...and it broke on Friday. Lawyers pouring over it? Who knows.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that it was a set up to catch him. They wanted him out, and he's out.

A decent PM would have fired Hancock for this. But I can totally imagine that if Boris was clueless about this, him telling MH, "first rule mate, don't get caught". So, if Boris was unaware, then perhaps there were others in Whitehall who wanted MH out, and set about achieving their goal.

It's seedy and horrible and now there will be even more dirt dishing on the little toad.

This must not deflect from far more serious errors made by Hancock. He should still be held to account. This must not wipe out the many errors, contracts, lies he told. When his stupid App and "world beating" test, track, trace debacle was wasting time and costing lives. He's accountable for far, far more than this tawdry affair.

bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 08:46

He didn't resign for having an affair.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 27/06/2021 08:48

Sarah Vine definitely doesn't want to cast as the "poor, unaware wife", does she?

Gove must be absolutely shitting himself. She is terrifying.

Roussette · 27/06/2021 08:49

personally don’t think he should have to resign for having an affair. Being shit at his job... yeah... having an affair ... nah

He's not resigning because he had an affair! If that were the case, I think it would wipe out half the Cabinet!

It's the breaking of lockdown rules that he was instrumental in setting.

And let's be under no illusion... if he is leaving his wife for her, this has been going on probably through the brutal winter lockdown too.

Hypocrite

IheartJKR · 27/06/2021 08:52

I’m still baffled as to why the affair partner has not been doorstepped?

Where are the intrusive photos of her husband checking for a wedding ring?

Why is no one talking in the press about his humiliation?

The affair partner and family seem somewhat protected…. By whom???

Wanttocry · 27/06/2021 08:53

@PersonaNonGarter

It WASNT cctv footage. It was hidden in the smoke detector.

He was spied on.

Different things are being reported on this (sorry DM link!)

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9728843/amp/Matt-Hancocks-affair-footage-office-CCTV-reveals-GLEN-OWEN.html

MancyNitford · 27/06/2021 08:53

Sarah Vine definitely doesn't want to cast as the "poor, unaware wife", does she?

Gove must be absolutely shitting himself. She is terrifying*

That article was definitely written for an audience of one. Gove should be afraid.

IheartJKR · 27/06/2021 08:53

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

Sarah Vine definitely doesn't want to cast as the "poor, unaware wife", does she?

Gove must be absolutely shitting himself. She is terrifying.

I really liked this piece and found myself agreeing with everything she said….so much so I sent it to my dh Grin
bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 08:55

@IheartJKR there are pics of affair partner filling her car up with all her belongings and leaving her kids and marital home, pics of her husband too. Not sure what more you want.

Backhills · 27/06/2021 08:55

She's not the government minister responsible for the rules they broke, she's "just" a woman who had an affair with her boss. Not so long ago this would be painted as all her fault, the fact that the press aren't going for her is actually a bit of progress.

newnortherner111 · 27/06/2021 08:55

I disagree about Michael Gove being worried. Even though there are women about with very low self-esteem, there surely cannot be another woman who would want a relationship with him?

bonfireheart · 27/06/2021 08:56

The Sarah Vine/Michael Gove stuff is weird given Diane Abbotts tweet yesterday.

Lemonwoe · 27/06/2021 08:57

Very few of us have been as pure as the cold driven snow through lockdown.

Most of us have broken a few rules in one way or another.

I really feel sorry for the spouses and kids involved.

IheartJKR · 27/06/2021 08:58

[quote bonfireheart]@IheartJKR there are pics of affair partner filling her car up with all her belongings and leaving her kids and marital home, pics of her husband too. Not sure what more you want.[/quote]
Sorry I didn’t see them.

I don’t actually want to see them - I just don’t like how the wife is hounded in these situations.

IheartJKR · 27/06/2021 08:58

@Backhills

She's not the government minister responsible for the rules they broke, she's "just" a woman who had an affair with her boss. Not so long ago this would be painted as all her fault, the fact that the press aren't going for her is actually a bit of progress.
Interesting perspective.
Pottedpalm · 27/06/2021 08:59

@PicsInRed

The camera wasn't hidden. It was CCTV, trained only on the door, which had been there since before Hancock took the office.

MI5 have said they aren't getting involved.

The "hidden camera" nonsense is the divert. The real news is the corruption. The next news is how severe and serious the corruption was.

Has this been stated officially? ( genuine question), because if the camera had always been there, surely Hancock would know and not pick that very spot for canoodling?
LittleBearPad · 27/06/2021 08:59

Hancock is a coward, I can imagine him racing home to tell his wife, not through any duty, loyalty or respect to her, but to get home before a journalist had told her. Horrible little man. Then waking up a sleeping child to tell them...all of it is awful, and selfish of him

He’s a total scumbag. I wonder if Gina will want a failed politician as her boyfriend when reality sets in. 6 children’s lives totally upended.

The Sarah Vine article is interesting particularly given the rumours about Gove.

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