Matt Hancock affair (3)

[TheoMeo]

Surely you would have cameras in a Government building and surely pointing it at doorways between different areas or departments isn't a bad idea.
It looks like a screenshot of a cctv security camera monitor.

That was a cheap shot by Diane Abbott imo.

I also think it's highly unlikely Hancock's wife didn't know. They could have had an arrangement, which obviously couldn't continue after this.

Or, she's the equivalent of one of the sad, confused women who so often post on the relationships board about their husband's long "friendship" with the one who got away, he pining, the "friend" seemingly enjoying the ego boost. When the wife expresses concerns, she's scolded that "men and women can be just friends" and "he has a right to friends too".

She may have suspected for a while, but she would also have been gaslit to fuck by Hancock, the OW and those around them.

Am not surprised MH didn't consider the cameras, he gets away with so much as it is, thought he was invincible.

@dysonsphere not at all, when everything she does or says gets ripped apart.

That was a cheap shot by Diane Abbott imo.

Yes, it was but given the vilification she has had to put up with over the years, I can see why she was tempted.

@Backhills

If Gove has moved out to live with someone else then he's done the right thing? Hasn't he? At least that's what MN always says.

I also think it's highly unlikely Hancock's wife didn't know. They could have had an arrangement, which obviously couldn't continue after this. This could even have been deliberate on the part of one or both of them to bring things to a head. Although what a way to go!

If parents, either one or both, conspired to "bring things to a head" in this way I think their children are being abused. Bad enough to have parents splitting up but imagine being a 13 or 14 year old going into school knowing everyone has seen that video. Most of us found it hideous beyond words, imagine if it was your dad. Those poor kids. Bad enough if it was thoughtless, bloody horrific if it was done deliberately.

For a man with no talent or charm or personality or even supporters, he seems to have got far in life.

Bonfireheart that should never have been allowed to happen to that child, I cannot even imagine the trauma for his parents. I really can't. Then they had to go through the whole thing again at the funeral. It was just completely inhumane.

@ancientgran I know right, easier to say the pressures of the last year have caused strain on marriage and separate amicably, than orchestrate this nonsense as some suggest.

@BiscoffAddict

For a woman who’s husband has just left her, and publicly humiliated her in the process Mrs Hancock doesn’t appear to be all that bothered. Maybe she’s secretly relieved that he’s buggered off? Though I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he doesn’t come him with his tail between his legs sooner rather than later,

Interestingly MH grew up near me and his Dad left his mum for another woman, who he married, when MH was very young. This is probably normal for him!

And there we have it. It's a shame he didn't bother to think back to how shitty it felt being little Matt Hancock as his Dad left and set up a new life while everybody talked about it. Presumably he has instead focused on how it worked out ok for his Dad.

I honestly don't think anyone should be allowed into politics without a serious amount of counselling first. The difficulty being that most people, given the time, space and support to reflect on what really matters would realise that politics is rarely the answer!

@MobyDicksTinyCanoe

Don't know about anyone else but I keep thinking of that poor family who had to let their 13 year old son die alone...... They respected those rules with such dignity it broke my heart.

And then we have the idiots that are giving out orders completely flouting them for a game of tonsil tennis and quick grope.

People have affairs, fine. It's shit but it happens but ffs. He could have picked his timing a bit better.

It's a similar thing that's made me so angry. As a nurse I have had to turn people away who have wanted to see their dying loved ones as they have only been allowed one named visitor through a lot of the pandemic. We have had to make families decide who gets to see their loved one for the last time. Absolutely devastating. I can't imagine how those families feel about all this.

@BiscoffAddict

For a woman who’s husband has just left her, and publicly humiliated her in the process Mrs Hancock doesn’t appear to be all that bothered. Maybe she’s secretly relieved that he’s buggered off? Though I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he doesn’t come him with his tail between his legs sooner rather than later,

Interestingly MH grew up near me and his Dad left his mum for another woman, who he married, when MH was very young. This is probably normal for him!

She might be glad he's gone or she might be devastated. If she's devastated she's doing a good job of styling it out and good on her. I hope she's OK and if she's hurting now I hope she knows it will get better.

[quote bonfireheart]@ancientgran I know right, easier to say the pressures of the last year have caused strain on marriage and separate amicably, than orchestrate this nonsense as some suggest.[/quote]
Exactly that.

i think we all look back fondly of Hancocks time at the DofH,

Javid is a liberal on restrictions, helped design the policies that saw the NHS underfunded, nurse charged for training and PPE stocks run down.

SK is Carries appointment, even Jane Moore (of the SUN) said better qualified tories.

@PicsInRed

It's just occurred to me - did Hancock have both a financial and personal interest to extend lockdown and then restrictions? I wonder what Whitty and Valance have to say, did they agree with him, or did they have concerns?

It's extremely stark that Hancock's mates were getting rich off covid and he was getting his end away and this set Hancock up for doantions to campaigns and then mate's jobs when he eventually left politics (see: David Cameron).

Did Hancock extend restrictions unnecessarily? That's a question which should be asked.

No way would Sir Patrick or Prof Witty have been anything other than 100% driven by scientific data, let's be absolutely clear there is no basis for a conspiracy theory involving them.

ie they would only have given their advice in the interests of this country not MH.

These people are so morally bankrupt Hancock Ferguson Johnson its not surprisingly people are so sick of them - where is their moral compass ? Do what you want but don’t be in politics telling everyone how to behave when you cannot and will not do the same and jeez when Hancock came out saying he had broken SD rules no you prick you have been unfaithful to your wife your selfish actions have broken up two marriages destroyed 6 children’s innocence and her husband forcing two innocent people into the media spotlight. Jeez it’s a miracle he could get one person in the sack

No way would Sir Patrick or Prof Witty have been anything other than 100% driven by scientific data, let's be absolutely clear there is no basis for a conspiracy theory involving them

ie they would only have given their advice in the interests of this country not MH

Most scientists have differing views on CV response (look at how even european countries have dealt with CV) and both were political appointees, backing up 100% whatever Johnson has chosen to do.

Very good article by Sarah Vine. Spot on, not just in politics but in business too.

Cheap shot by Diane Abbott.

After storming of US capital on 6 Jan, I think we can all understand why there are lots of cameras in govt office buildings.

I thought SV's article was bland. Of course it will make her look naively smug if MG ever leaves her.

@Roussette

I don't think the affair is the thing here. I think it's the private Gmail account Hancock uses, to conduct governmental business and award contracts to friends. No record then...

Yes, the affair will have been going on far longer than May, which means that during the brutal winter lockdown he will have broken every rule going.

Yes, this is disgraceful. And the appointment of his mistress to a government role!

@LunaNorth, yes, this

@bonfireheart

That *@MobyDicksTinyCanoe*. It scares me how quickly those that died seemed to have forgotten about, with all these gimmicks of Eat Out to Help Out and Freedom Day :/ My aunt got covid, caused a blood clot, caused a stroke. In hospital for months, we were told she wouldn't make it, no one allowed to see her.

Genuine question How did it cause a blood clot?

These people are so morally bankrupt Hancock Ferguson Johnson its not surprisingly people are so sick of them

Are people sick of them? They keep voting for them

No way would Sir Patrick or Prof Witty have been anything other than 100% driven by scientific data, let's be absolutely clear there is no basis for a conspiracy theory involving them.

To be absoutely clear on this, I'm not suggesting Whitty or Valance have done anything wrong, I'm suggesting questions should be asked as to whether Hancock was actually following their advice - or whether Hancock dragged this out for personal and financial gain, ignoring advice.

It's notable, as a PP reminded us, that Hancock did not submit positive data around control of Delta and hospitalisations/deaths to the committee examining extension of restrictions just last month.

That is potentially significant given this new information around the affair, covid contracts to her brother, dodgy gmail account dealings etc.

@Scaredycatmoo76 I don't know because the family have enough on without me asking questions, but uncle (her husband) is a hospital consultant himself so she is getting good care.

Covid-19 does cause higher risk of strokes due to blood clots
www.hriuk.org/health/your-health/lifestyle/people-with-coronavirus-are-at-risk-of-blood-clots-and-strokes