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To think a sitting Labour MP should operate in line with their manifesto

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HermioneWeasley · 04/02/2021 20:43

Leeds Labour MP has confirmed he doesn’t think women should have any sex segregated spaces (despite the commitment in the last manifesto), and that anyone who disagrees is a bigot.

If you vote for a party, shouldn’t you be able to rely on your MP abiding by manifesto commitments?

Also, what kind of woman hating psychopath thinks that refuges and prisons should be mixed sex?

To think a sitting Labour MP should operate in line with their manifesto
To think a sitting Labour MP should operate in line with their manifesto
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Eleganz · 04/02/2021 20:46

When have politicians ever stuck to an election manifesto?

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 04/02/2021 20:47

What breathtaking arrogance.

prawncocktailpringles · 04/02/2021 20:49

Disgusting. How dare he? I have always voted Labour but never will again.

CallistoSol · 04/02/2021 20:50

Maybe a letter writing campaign to him, Keir Starmer and a couple of newspapers is a good idea here. Might help him see the error of his ways.

ilovesooty · 04/02/2021 20:54

@prawncocktailpringles

Disgusting. How dare he? I have always voted Labour but never will again.
Is he your MP?
PaleBlueMoonlight · 04/02/2021 20:57

Wow. That is seriously disturbing.

Does he not think that their are huge differences between men and women in terms of their how their bodies function, and their size, strength and relative propensity towards violence and sexual assault, or does he just not think that they matter enough to give women the benefit of single sex spaces?

PaleBlueMoonlight · 04/02/2021 20:57

*there

prawncocktailpringles · 04/02/2021 20:58

He is in a neighbouring constituency where I was born. Regardless, I left the LP due to this kind of condescending, insulting stuff. Every time they open their mouths it convinces me I did the right thing. Next election, instead of spending every day working my arse off to get LP elected I will be campaigning to hold them to account on this issue. And I am not alone. #labourlosingwomen

HettieMillia · 04/02/2021 21:00

He needs a mass complaint waged against him. What an absolute waste of space he is.

HermioneWeasley · 04/02/2021 21:00

How he can think we shouldn’t have sex segregated PRISONS is just boggling.

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HettieMillia · 04/02/2021 21:01

No wonder labour failed so dismally. Their chance of making a comeback is zero.

ilovesooty · 04/02/2021 21:01

@prawncocktailpringles

He is in a neighbouring constituency where I was born. Regardless, I left the LP due to this kind of condescending, insulting stuff. Every time they open their mouths it convinces me I did the right thing. Next election, instead of spending every day working my arse off to get LP elected I will be campaigning to hold them to account on this issue. And I am not alone. #labourlosingwomen
Thank you for clarifying.
prawncocktailpringles · 04/02/2021 21:05

@HettieMillia

He needs a mass complaint waged against him. What an absolute waste of space he is.
But they just don't care. Starmer stood by and watched as Helen Steele, who he has known for decades, was removed from his campaign launch and did nothing. The man who sits on the fence on every single issue seems to be perfectly confident in picking a side when it comes to throwing women under a bus. They are aware of the concerns. They have been told repeatedly. They don't care. :-( Our vote is the only power we have now. I think they may have forgotten that women have the vote too. I will be spoiling my ballot with #labourlosingwomen at the next election to remind them.

Sorry for ranting!! Argh!

HettieMillia · 04/02/2021 21:25

I'm voting Tory 🤷‍♀️

NiceGerbil · 04/02/2021 21:29

Mixed sex prisons?

Mixed sex communal changing for swimming at school?

What a total bastard.

Would he extend this to religious groups where the men and women worship separately I wonder.

What kind of utter bastard wants mixed sex prisons? I mean I know a lot of people say you've done the crime do the time. But mixing in the proportionately tiny amount of women in prison for predominantly non violent offences with the male population? That's utterly evil.

I mean if he doesn't care about what will be done to them re violence, sexual violence and God only knows what. There are going to be babies. In whose interest is that?

I can't get to grips with this at all.

And the rest of it. I know when no more mixed sex wards were promised it was a lie. Nevertheless. I was on a mixed sex ward at 18. Me and about 7 men. The nurses only came around sometimes. A couple of them just sat and started at me. It was really unsettling.

Anything could have happened looking back. Luckily it was an orthopaedic ward so they were a bit less mobile...

Also. Mixed secure mental health facilities.

I mean the list goes on. What's wrong with him.

northernruth · 04/02/2021 21:30

He is my MP. I voted for him. Dismayed

Wishitsnows · 04/02/2021 21:32

Is he trying to ensure no woman will vote Labour! What a scary viewpoint he has.

ShimmyShimmyYa · 04/02/2021 21:32

he's calling the women who have concerns "bigots"
utterly breath-taking; i'm voting tory, too

NiceGerbil · 04/02/2021 21:34

'There were approximately 77.42 thousand men and 3.41 thousand women in prison in the United Kingdom in 2020.'

That's more than 20 men to every woman.

ilovesooty · 04/02/2021 21:35

Absolutely nothing would or could convince me to vote Tory. I couldn't countenance throwing all less privileged people under a bus.

ilovesooty · 04/02/2021 21:36

@Wishitsnows

Is he trying to ensure no woman will vote Labour! What a scary viewpoint he has.
You're assuming that all women vote solely on this issue.
HettieMillia · 04/02/2021 21:42

Absolutely nothing would or could convince me to vote Tory. I couldn't countenance throwing all less privileged people under a bus

I'm not throwing women under the bus. And every other party will do exactly that. A labour win would look like the Biden win. No thanks.

ChonkyChook · 04/02/2021 21:45

"You're assuming that all women vote solely on this issue."

I suppose turkeys do vote for Christmas occasionally.

What woman would vote for him? Men, and women who hate themselves and other women? Maybe?

Any woman who votes for him should volunteer to spend a week in an all male prison. If it's good enough for female prisoners, put your money where your mouth is.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/02/2021 21:50

@CallistoSol

Maybe a letter writing campaign to him, Keir Starmer and a couple of newspapers is a good idea here. Might help him see the error of his ways.
It probably won't change his mind, or get Starmer off his fence. But at least they wouldn't be able to pretend they didn't know that women and girls want, and need, these facilities.

He's wrong about there being no evidence of mixed sex facilities being less safe than single, too.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 04/02/2021 21:52

I just can't get past the arrogance.

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