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US erasing Women - Janice Turner

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feelingquitehopeful · 23/01/2021 07:08

It was totally shocking to me this week as a supporter of the Democrats to see Biden choosing his moment carefully on day one to wipe out women's and girl's rights in the states in one fail swoop. There was no discussion, no consultation. No warning. Just like that he removed centuries of our rights as women.

He will now go down in history as the first President that abolished womenhood and Motherhood and women's rights. I am astonished and horrified and reeling actually, even this morning. I have had a few days to process the shock, but no, I am still reeling.

It is now punishable to describe a woman as a mother for instance, or to stop a man/boy with a penis showering with your pre teen daughter at school.
Prisons can no longer keep women safe, they will now lock up male rapists (Identifying as women, which anyone can now do no questions asked) with trapped female prisoners in cells. Can you imagine being in that position? The horror of being trapped in that situation, as survivor this actually keeps me awake at night.

Men can use lavatories, locker rooms and showers with young girls. It is ILLEGAL to now stop them. It is also illegal to stop a man competing in women's sports, making women's and girls sports now obsolete. What girl is going to outrun a biological male?

We have literally, as a sex been erased completely from the legal framework and with it all of our protections thanks to Biden. Men can still be men, because that doesn't offend anyone apparently - they will not be called 'testicle havers' or 'ejaculators' it will only be women subjected to this. So that says a lot of modern equality and where we are with it today in the US.

Women have been reduced to 'Menstruators' and the highly offensive 'black birthing bodies' if you are describing a mother from the BAME community. That is what we must all be called now.

That is the new healing landscape Biden describes as he cuts out the rights of half the nation.

Janice Turner as always is an absolute legend, and her excellent article 'War of words risks wiping women from our Language' in the Times this morning is outstanding, and covers the grave situation we ALL now face. For anyone thinking it could never happen here, think again.

Read it for yourself:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/war-of-words-risks-wiping-women-from-our-language-djhp2mwjg

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GaspingGekko · 23/01/2021 07:45

What he has done is awful for women and girls. I just hope that this will open a lot more people's eyes to what is truly going on.

However YABU to be shocked by this. Biden has been quite clear that he was going to do this - perhaps the speed is a little surprising but that's all. So many women in the US have been complaining for months that they are politically homeless. Left between voting for Trump who, in addition to the obvious, would leave women defending their abortion rights, or voting for Biden and so defending their right to exist as a sex group, rather than a gender identity group.

AlwaysCheddar · 23/01/2021 07:49

And people thought Trump was the looney (he was at times but Biden is just as bad).

Sinful8 · 23/01/2021 07:54

" the highly offensive 'black birthing bodies' if you are describing a mother from the BAME community. That is what we must all be called now."

Do you think when you make insane statements like all bame mothers must be called "black birthing bodies" you alienate any part of your message that had any sense?

TheQueenRaven · 23/01/2021 07:55

Does anyone have a share token for the article?

OP - I had a heavy heart on Inauguration Day, couldn't watch the ceremony as I knew what was coming. I feel sick about what's happening to the rights of women and girls.

We need to continue fighting back. I'm going to (reluctantly) re-join the Labour party as they may be in power in 4 years and by then they need to know what a woman is.

dairydairy · 23/01/2021 07:58

The lunatics are still running in asylum, at least in the UK and US.

I wonder what the VP thinks of it ? If she's in support then she's worse then Biden.

AStudyinPink · 23/01/2021 08:01

I'm going to (reluctantly) re-join the Labour party as they may be in power in 4 years and by then they need to know what a woman is.

But they don’t. Starmer is in hock to woke. I’m a lifelong Labour voter and will (reluctantly) probably be abstaining in the next election as I honestly believe the Tories have the common-sense position on identity politics.

Flippy87 · 23/01/2021 08:07

thequeen but the labour party are the worst for women’s rights? Or do you mean join to teach them?

TheQueenRaven · 23/01/2021 08:07

But they don’t. Starmer is in hock to woke

For now, but he's a clever man, doing what had he to do to become leader of the Labour Party. Plenty of time to defeat the woke before the next election.

Or so I keep telling myself.

AStudyinPink · 23/01/2021 08:09

For now, but he's a clever man, doing what had he to do to become leader of the Labour Party

Otherwise known as an unprincipled turncoat? Eek.

Chicchicchicchiclana · 23/01/2021 08:11

My FB has been filled with posts from great women celebrating the new administration in the US and I just can't join in. Presumably this news will come as a profound shock to many.

Dozer · 23/01/2021 08:11

Janice Turner’s article is an eye opener. Two things stood out for me: examples of official UK crime statistics no longer including sex but ‘gender’ and an apparent rise in ‘women’ committing violent/sexual crime. And that health charities for men’s health issues like testicular cancer are still using the term ‘men’ and not being accused of ‘transphobia’.

More broadly, yet another illustration that US ‘democracy’ isn’t v democratic!

TheQueenRaven · 23/01/2021 08:11

@Flippy87 - yes. I resigned my membership in disgust, now I might rejoin to try and reclaim my Party. We need to do it in hundreds of thousands though and I can understand the reluctance to give the woke fuckers any money. Biden has scared me into considering it though.

AStudyinPink · 23/01/2021 08:13

examples of official UK crime statistics no longer including sex but ‘gender’

I was asked by a website for my “gender” yesterday. I was given the opportunity to “customise” it, so I said “fruit”.

KindKylie · 23/01/2021 08:15

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HepLaurenceLB · 23/01/2021 08:22

You can hate Trump and hate what Biden has done at the same time. Biden has put so many women and girls in danger.

ClangingChimesofDoom · 23/01/2021 08:37

Do you think when you make insane statements like all bame mothers must be called "black birthing bodies" you alienate any part of your message that had any sense?

It IS an insane statement but it wasn't made up the the OP. I don't have a source but I'm sure it was said by some organisation on twitter or similar.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 23/01/2021 08:37

I'm saddened and a grey that Biden has done this.

Circumlocutious · 23/01/2021 08:40

@AStudyinPink

For now, but he's a clever man, doing what had he to do to become leader of the Labour Party

Otherwise known as an unprincipled turncoat? Eek.

Well yes, you need an element of that - however small and carefully-managed- if you want to lead the country. Otherwise feel free to bang on about your unwavering principles and continue watching self-righteously from the sidelines while children’s services are abandoned and the poor and disabled are thrown to the dogs.
Jetatyeovilaerodrome · 23/01/2021 08:41

That article is brilliant - it covers so many points. How anyone can still think this is OK is beyond me.

AStudyinPink · 23/01/2021 08:42

Otherwise feel free to bang on about your unwavering principles and continue watching self-righteously from the sidelines while children’s services are abandoned and the poor and disabled are thrown to the dogs.

Oh yes, principles. Those outdated things. Do you think Starmer has principles? You must, or surely you wouldn’t think he could do anything for the children, the poor and the disabled.

Your subtext: the categories you mentioned are more deserving of rights than women, so his principles are important and mine are something I’m ‘banging on about’.

A very old and cliched story.

Jetatyeovilaerodrome · 23/01/2021 08:42

Well yes, you need an element of that - however small and carefully-managed- if you want to lead the country. Otherwise feel free to bang on about your unwavering principles and continue watching self-righteously from the sidelines while children’s services are abandoned and the poor and disabled are thrown to the dogs.

Yep.

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 23/01/2021 08:44

It's grim. I hadn't been taking much notice so when his Executive Order came out in was so disappointed. Women can't win - the GOP want to ban abortion, the Dems have disappeared their sex altogether.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 23/01/2021 08:46

@AStudyinPink

Otherwise feel free to bang on about your unwavering principles and continue watching self-righteously from the sidelines while children’s services are abandoned and the poor and disabled are thrown to the dogs.

Oh yes, principles. Those outdated things. Do you think Starmer has principles? You must, or surely you wouldn’t think he could do anything for the children, the poor and the disabled.

Your subtext: the categories you mentioned are more deserving of rights than women, so his principles are important and mine are something I’m ‘banging on about’.

A very old and cliched story.

Yes, women must always wait till everyone else has been given their rights Hmm
Carryingon · 23/01/2021 08:49

It is a very good article!