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to be so angry at this..Sick bastards burn effigy of Grenfell Tower for Bonfire Night.

441 replies

HelenaDove · 05/11/2018 17:11

Im absolutely disgusted at this and it shows how far the stigma against social housing tenants has gone.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/grenfell-tower-effigy-video_uk_5be05c4be4b01ffb1d04873b?ncid=other_twitter_cooo9wqtham&utm_campaign=share_twitter

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Iputthescrewinthetuna · 05/11/2018 18:32

How is this even a discussion of whether it was a hate crime or not!
WTAF!!!! People died, people grieving, people fighting for their life in the most horrific way!!!
But yeah, laugh away!

I fucking hope you go to sleep tonight knowing your home is safe from fire! Those poor people will never feel safe again! I am fuming!
I was once in a fire with my 6 week old baby! Luckily nobody was hurt, but I still have nightmares! That was a smidgen of what the victims of grenfell tower went through!
Nobody would dare laugh at me...to my face!
These people are cowards and scum and anybody saying that this isn't a hate crime are enablers of the shitty people we have in our society!

And yes, I know this is probably not the most articulate post, but I am fuming!!!

Bejazzled · 05/11/2018 18:34

It's disgusting behaviour. I wonder about how society is heading I really do. In Edinburgh the garden of remembrance has been trashed with all the wee poppies and tributes smashed to the ground.

Varmints · 05/11/2018 18:38

Just watched this on the news, fucking sick cunts, disgraceful Angry

MrsTommyBanks · 05/11/2018 18:39

I've just seen coverage of this on ITV news.
It's truly upset me to tears.
Absolutely a hate crime and examples should be made of those involved.
Despicable excuses of humanity.

Buster72 · 05/11/2018 18:41

It's distasteful disgusting immature.
No-one has said it's O.k.
But it isn't a crime. Some have asked for them to be prosecuted, but without the legislation, that can't be done.

butterflysugarbaby · 05/11/2018 18:41

Oh FFS! What is this shit? Shock

I have seen some shit but very few things as bad as this.

Words fail me. Sad

MrsTommyBanks · 05/11/2018 18:42

It is very clear from the images included on the effigy ie people of colour, and the dialogue on the video referring to female Muslims that this was an act born out of racism.

apostropheuse · 05/11/2018 18:42

Vile excuses for human beings. Absolutely disgusting thing to do. It beggars belief that it would enter anyone's head that this is in any way funny.

Caprisunorange · 05/11/2018 18:44

I hope theyre arrested for this. It doesn’t look too hard, they look too stupid to cover up their identities much

PortiaCastis · 05/11/2018 18:47

The Home Secretary has got involved

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/05/home-secretary-condemns-sick-video-people-burning-effigy-grenfell/

DeltaG · 05/11/2018 18:50

I bet the EDL has some involvement in this

More likely to be pampered princes from the local indy school poking fun at the poor, I'd imagine.

Buster72 · 05/11/2018 18:55

According to that link the police have looked at it, but can't identify any offences.....
Sad behaviour nontheless

NerrSnerr · 05/11/2018 18:55

More likely to be pampered princes from the local indy school poking fun at the poor, I'd imagine.

Did you watch the video?

SinisterBumFacedCat · 05/11/2018 18:55

I feel physically sick after watching that video. Those absolute bastards. I hope they are identified but they will probably be protected by the likeminded idiots surrounding them in their echo chambers. Of course it's a hate crime, you only have to listen to what they're saying. Blantant racism.

My dad is currently dying an undignified feat of an incurable debilitating disease which is taking its time, 15 years so far. He doesn't deserve it. These people deserve it, I wish it on them. And I've never said that before.

MrsTommyBanks · 05/11/2018 18:58

I bet the EDL has some involvement in this

100%, typical of the scum that make up EDL

DeltaG · 05/11/2018 19:00

@NerrSnerr

Yes?

Buster72 · 05/11/2018 19:02

For a hate crime to be a hate crime you need a "crime."

Expressing racism, in your own garden is not a crime.

I'm not excusing this behaviour one bit, just pointing out that prosecution will be well nigh imposible

PortiaCastis · 05/11/2018 19:03

Government press release
They're urging people not to share the disgusting video

www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-regarding-grenfell-tower-video?fbclid=IwAR1gVh_bBigkTwti82lyWP-DGXMcqHPK2AEtwjBjXOh4yxcy5AHou_RVjGo

Vinorosso74 · 05/11/2018 19:05

That is disgusting! How sick in the head Do you have to be to do such a thing? The fire was such a tragic event with so many unnecessary losses of lives so for a bunch dickheads to mock is just so sick. Wonder how they'd feel if it's as their loved ones who perished.

Vinorosso74 · 05/11/2018 19:05

*it was

doubleshotespresso · 05/11/2018 19:07

I saw this earlier and was so angry at this. Just when did this kind of utter depravity become broadcastable (if that is even a word?)?

I hope they find these idiots and burn them alive

doubleshotespresso · 05/11/2018 19:12

Expressing racism, in your own garden is not a crime.

No but inciting racial hatred by sharing it on social media surely is?

Birdsgottafly · 05/11/2018 19:13

They have posted a video intending to cause alarm or distress, that's a crime. Until they put it on SM, it wasn't.

I wonder what was meant by "we've won this one"?.

Anyway, any public mocking of the Hillsborough disaster has meant life changed dramatically and unpleasantly for those doing it.

The same will happen, when hopefully the people in the video are found.

Usernumbers1234 · 05/11/2018 19:14

It’s abhorrent, but it’s not a crime nor will anyone ever be prosecuted, hopefully they will be publicly identified and their lives made a misery, but it’s not a crime and the police shouldn’t be wasting their time trying to find out who it is, the journalists however should be all over that investigation.

Can’t remember the place, but every year a place down south burns a topical effigy, it wasn’t a hate crime when they burned a Trump effigy and this isn’t a hate crime.

It’s probably done the surviving residents of grenfell and the families of the victims a favour. It’s put Grenfell back in the headlines when it was starting to disappear.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 05/11/2018 19:15

It is a vile, sick and disgusting thing to do. However some of the paper people were obviously white, so not a race or hate crime, but totally abhorrent. No law appears to have been broken, and as it appears to be in somebodies backgarden it really shouldnt be hard to find out who they are.