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to be so angry at this..Sick bastards burn effigy of Grenfell Tower for Bonfire Night.

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HelenaDove · 05/11/2018 17:11

Im absolutely disgusted at this and it shows how far the stigma against social housing tenants has gone.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/grenfell-tower-effigy-video_uk_5be05c4be4b01ffb1d04873b?ncid=other_twitter_cooo9wqtham&utm_campaign=share_twitter

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greendale17 · 05/11/2018 18:01

It is sickening. Unfortunately I don’t see that a crime has been committed

picklemepumpkin · 05/11/2018 18:02

I don't think the compassionless empty people who made this will be aware of the niceties of who owned what. They are just acting out the bleakness of their own lives. Be sorry for them, and protect people from them.

MidnightAura · 05/11/2018 18:03

luckily the police don’t agree.

NerrSnerr · 05/11/2018 18:05

It doesn't take much imagination to understand why these idiots are mocking the victims of Grenfell. If it was a tower block full of white British people they wouldn't be.

Not a lot on social media shocks me but this is absolutely disgusting.

Choochoothepanda · 05/11/2018 18:05

Honestly Choochoothepanda do you really need it spelt out to you or are you just being wilfully obtuse? What Helena has said is right.

Yes please. Spell out exactly how being a tennant is a hate crime qualifier. Feel free to link to the legislation.

PortiaCastis · 05/11/2018 18:05

Mocking publicy the victims of this nations 2017 dreadful tragedy is surely a crime which is why the Met Police are looking into it, if it was a dead celebrity who burned the take on things would be completely different.
I'm heavily involved with helping Grenfell victims that is why the video upsets me so much

Oswin · 05/11/2018 18:05

Jesus that made me sick. Its awful. What scum.
They called one of the cut out people in the window a ninja I think, anyway it blatantly obvious they are racist.

bookmum08 · 05/11/2018 18:08

To add to my comment about not all residents being 'Social' tennants - I was meaning that the revolting people that did this are thicko morons as well as revolting.

RoboticMary · 05/11/2018 18:09

It was a wicked thing to do, a distasteful thing to do. No doubt. But it’s not a criminal act.

NerrSnerr · 05/11/2018 18:09

@Choochoothepanda so you don't think it may be racially motivated?

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 05/11/2018 18:09

YANBU.
The bastards cunts twats. I'm sorry for my language but I'm so angry.
I don't care 'if' they were illegal immigrants or if they didn't pay their rent. They were innocent people who died one the worse death imaginable, little babies included.
It doesn't bare thinking about

I hope they're shitting themselves, too.

TwistedStitch · 05/11/2018 18:12

I don't know how posters can say there is definitely no crime here when the police themselves have stated that they are investigating to see if any offences have been committed. There were clear racist comments made in the video.

HelenaDove · 05/11/2018 18:14

Choco there was no real anti racist legislation either until the Race Relations Act of 1976 That doesnt mean there was no racism or racist hate crime before then.

Just because there is no legislation for tenant hate doesnt mean that it doesnt exist.

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Hhyjmhyu · 05/11/2018 18:14

The video turned my stomach. I'm not convinced it's a crime to be a fuckwit though.

Choochoothepanda · 05/11/2018 18:20

I don't know how posters can say there is definitely no crime here when the police themselves have stated that they are investigating to see if any offences have been committed.

Because the police are investigating to see if offences have been committed, it doesn't mean they have. It doesn't necessarily follow that a POA offence has been committed because they're in a fenced garden. I think the prosecution would struggle with the dwelling rule in this case

Ghanagirl · 05/11/2018 18:20

@Choochoothepanda
Why don’t you go and post on the other thread where people are tripping up to deny racism exists and leave some dignity to those people who lost loved ones in a tragic fire

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 05/11/2018 18:20

Their not ',fuckwits'

They're evil wicked sperms of Satan.
Mocking terrified people screaming in unimaginablely agony as they burned alive. Angryx1,000,000,000+

Choochoothepanda · 05/11/2018 18:21

Just because there is no legislation for tenant hate doesnt mean that it doesnt exist.

It might do. Doesn't make it a crime.

Ghanagirl · 05/11/2018 18:21

Your lack of any human empathy is outstanding

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 05/11/2018 18:22

They're not their. I'm that angry and upset I'm.making grammar errors.

FekkoThePenguin · 05/11/2018 18:25

I’m guessing if they haven’t found the scumbags they will very soon.

Choochoothepanda · 05/11/2018 18:25

Why don’t you go and post on the other thread where people are tripping up to deny racism exists and leave some dignity to those people who lost loved ones in a tragic fire

Grow up. People are entitled to discuss whatever they like.

PavlovianLunge · 05/11/2018 18:30

Grow up. People are entitled to discuss whatever they like.

Yes. Yes they are, but from where I’m sitting, in your apparent determination to dig your heels and make a point, you are coming across very poorly indeed.

anchovyomelette · 05/11/2018 18:31

Choochoothepanda Yes, you're right that there is no legislation currently on hate crime against social housing tenants. So good for you for coming on the slap HelenaDove on the wrist for daring to mention such a thing. However, many social housing tenants come from groups that are protected by hate crime legislation, so it's not exactly a giant leap is it?

HelenaDove · 05/11/2018 18:32

On ITV News now

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