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It's been just over a week, and what a week. Amazing. So good. The best.

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amispartacus · 28/01/2017 12:04

Follow up from previous thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2837382-Donald-Trump-the-first-week-is-BAD-What-next-Come-all-ye-Beautifuls?

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GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 15:53

The New York Times ‏*@nytimes* 16s16 seconds ago
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Breaking News: After protests, the Trump administration seemed to scale back the president's immigration ban

I don't buy it.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 15:56

Ha. Pence went back into his twitter account and deleted the tweet that people have been retweeting everywhere from last year when he said "Calls to ban Muslims from entering the US are offensive and unconstitutional."

He doesn't really think it's as easy as deleting his tweet, does he? How amusing.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 15:58

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On Face the Nation, Priebus suggests Trump may expand the ban to include Pakistan and "other countries"

So there we go - he plans on making the ban LARGER!!!

And this:
CNN Politics ‏*@CNNPolitics* 34s35 seconds ago
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The White House is discussing asking foreign visitors for social media info and cell phone contacts cnn.it/2jKl5gr

ZebraOwl · 29/01/2017 16:02

Knew I should have kept hold of the flipping link... had to trawl back through the thread to find it!

If you'd like to keep checking in on where people have been signing petition/you'd like to search for a specific constituency & have the map zoom in for you (it doesn't do it brilliantly on a phone...): petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=171928

amispartacus · 29/01/2017 16:06

Pence went back into his twitter account and deleted the tweet that people have been retweeting everywhere from last year when he said "Calls to ban Muslims from entering the US are offensive and unconstitutional

Grin

Sounds like someone who does not know how the internet works

It was easier in the old days to change history.

It's been just over a week, and what a week. Amazing. So good. The best.
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ZebraOwl · 29/01/2017 16:06

Gah! Why is the petition map not being linky?!

www.petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=171928

Maybe everyone should tweet Pence the attached meme?

It's been just over a week, and what a week. Amazing. So good. The best.
GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 16:07

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Christians in the Middle-East have been executed in large numbers. We cannot allow this horror to continue!

His tweet from this morning - to justify the air strikes and more to come, I suspect. Anyone want to bet on when he uses WMD?

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 16:08

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Only in America could the Kushners go in just two generations from desperate refugees to shutting out desperate refugees

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 16:09

Sky News ‏*@SkyNews* 9s9 seconds ago
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Donald Trump claims his controversial strict travel restrictions will prevent a "horrible mess" in the US

AcrossthePond55 · 29/01/2017 16:10

So here's how that 20% tax on Mexican goods works:

Trump imposes 20% tax > American businesses using said imports passes said tax on to the American public in the form of increased prices > American people cry out> said businesses say to the Republican controlled govt 'unfair to make us increase prices, do something!> Congress votes in 'tax incentives' (read deductions) for these businesses saying 'this will help you keep prices down'> businesses get massive tax deductions and do NOT pass this on to the American people citing 'rising domestic production costs' or other bullshit>rich fat cat shareholders get massive dividends, CEOs get yuge bonuses --> American people get fucked again.

Do you seriously think this wasn't in the plan to start with? Trump (and the rich) take care of their own.

To paraphrase a slogan used over the last 8 years "Thanks, Trump!". Or perhaps we should start using another old phrase "A bas les aristos! A la lanterne!"

merrymouse · 29/01/2017 16:13

Re: the 'defend Trump' ad, what kind of rubbish US president needs a TV campaign to defend him against attack only a week after the inauguration?

amispartacus · 29/01/2017 16:15

Christians in the Middle-East have been executed in large numbers. We cannot allow this horror to continue

So have a lot of Muslims. Hence why they are refugees and are fleeing ISIS and the Syrian war etc

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GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 16:16

Re Mexico's leverage
From Washington Post article:

While the United States is the stronger power, Mexico is not without leverage if this dispute escalates. Top economic officials have already said that Mexico would “mirror” any additional taxes or tariffs that the United States imposes. Former officials have said that Mexico could also tax corporate profits from the many American companies with operations in Mexico.

Outside of the economic realm, Mexico also has plenty of cards to play in negotiations with Trump. Last year, Mexico deported nearly 150,000 migrants bound for the United States, most of them from Central America. Without this cooperation, officials predict that the number of migrants turning up at the U.S. border could double.

At the border, Mexican officials have been important partners on a variety of tasks, including gathering intelligence on drug cartels and facilitating food inspections, often working side by side with their U.S. counterparts. Mexico has also apprehended foreigners from other countries that pose a potential national security threat and has allowed U.S. authorities access to them. That cooperation could change.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 16:16

merrymouse what kind of loon would actually DO it??

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 16:16

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Marielena Hincapie of NILC says federal gov't has conceded judge's order applies nationwide, but on the ground agents are not complying.

merrymouse · 29/01/2017 16:18

Given his attitude to facts, I don't think it has even crossed Trump's mind that he will have to explain the logically how Mexico will pay for the wall. After all, among other things, he has successfully sold apartments with falsely numbered floors, stepped away from multiple bankruptcies, convinced the public that he is a good business man by appearing on a reality TV show, sold dodgy vitamins as part of what was basically a pyramid scheme and convinced people to part with tens of thousands of pounds so that they could learn about being estate agents.

Why wouldn't they believe some guff about a wall?

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 16:19

ABC News ‏*@ABC* 47s47 seconds ago
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Pres. Trump, GOP leaders mulling fate of young immigrants protected from deportation by former Pres. Obama abcn.ws/2kHiAQ9

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Bannon and Miller INTERVENED to apply the order to green card holders--overruling legal guidance. www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-travel-ban/index.html

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Rumours flying as "an abnormal one leg balance test predicts cognitive decline during Alzheimers" and may be the reason for the "fear of stairs" story.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 16:21

The Independent ‏*@Independent* 3m3 minutes ago
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Scottish Conservative leader joins calls to cancel Trump's state visit

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 16:22

And it's just a sad fucking day all around when even Piers Morgan agrees with us.

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Even @piersmorgan, who promoted Trump's candidacy, criticizes him over immigration order. dailym.ai/2kgaLzQ

amispartacus · 29/01/2017 16:24

And it's just a sad fucking day all around when even Piers Morgan agrees with us

Trump follows 41 people on Twitter. Including Piers Morgan...

Still, Hopkins and Farage still love him..

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 29/01/2017 16:25

he clearly doesn't care about Christians in the middle east, otherwise, he'd be at least allowing them in as refugees. (although that may be unconstitutional) And how is he going to prevent it anyway?

PlectrumElectrum · 29/01/2017 16:26

I've only just noticed this thread - place marking before it closes.

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 16:27

Re possible Alzheimers there is also the sleep issues and the late night tweeting which could be attributed to sundowning.

Monday's demonstration numbers up to:
attending: 9.5K
interested: 17K

StatisticallyChallenged · 29/01/2017 16:28

Jeez, has someone kidnapped piersmorgan and replaced him with a 'good' clone?

GingerIvy · 29/01/2017 16:29

Tamara Cofman Wittes ‏*@tcwittes* 1h1 hour ago
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Priebus told @chucktodd #Egypt, #Saudi & others could be added to the #MuslimBan. King Salman of Saudi slated to tak to @POTUS this AM.

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