It's been just over a week, and what a week. Amazing. So good. The best.

[amispartacus]

Follow up from previous thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2837382-Donald-Trump-the-first-week-is-BAD-What-next-Come-all-ye-Beautifuls?

There are a lot of Muslim majority countries out there. Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia. All big economies and all with populations who might not react well to recent events

I think Apple has spoken against his immigration order as well. They employ a lot of people from abroad so this is a major problem for them.

Here's a thing about apple's response

uk.businessinsider.com/tim-cook-on-trump-immigration-executive-order-2017-1?r=US&IR=T

Yes, he's fulfilling his promises. But many people who voted for him argued that it was only campaign exaggeration.

Funnily not it was Hillary who was accused of being in cahoots with countries like Saudi Arabia, big finance, being "hawkish", and so on. Trump was simply a nice bloke intent on making deals and making friends around the world. That would destroy ISIS in a week.

Oh yes, we should take him seriously not literally

Trump did criticise Apple for outsourcing too, despite owning stocks and benefiting from their lower costs.

I suppose we'll have to boycott only things with the name Trump on them.

Where are all the threads from Trump fans?

There were loads of fans before the election

Not all Americans are pleased with Trump's agenda. He is dismantling a lot of what we hold dear. Many are simply too blinded by fear or blood lust for the al queda to realise it.

I like his we're gonig to tax all Mexican imports 20% to pay for the wall. Won't that just put up the prices for americas and Americans will be paying for the wall and having to pay more money for things for themselves? Mexico isn't gonig to suddenly sell everything for less to include the tax so Americans pay the same price.

The Independent ‏*@Independent* 12s12 seconds ago
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People are furious with Ivanka Trump for the 'wildly offensive' photo she shared in midst of refugee ban ind.pn/2kgur7e

From the guardian live feed. Theresa May is waking up

12m ago
15:29
The Press Association has just filed this:

Prime minister Theresa May has ordered foreign secretary Boris Johnson and home secretary Amber Rudd to telephone their American counterparts to make representations about the US travel ban, Downing Street has said.

Senate Leader Mitch McConnell cautions Pres. Trump on immigration order, warning against "religious tests" abcn.ws/2k5Xx6X

"Boris Johnson will speak to two of Trump’s most senior advisers Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner and make it clear the UK wants an exemption from this travel ban for its citizens."

How do you think that's going to work out...?

Map of where people signed petition.

Mexico isn't gonig to suddenly sell everything for less to include the tax so Americans pay the same price.

No, they won't, because producing the same in the US would probably cost about 20% more anyway, so they won't have price competition.
It will be the US consumers who'll pay for the wall, regardless.

Or... they'll lose out to China, India, etc.

The Independent ‏*@Independent* 4m4 minutes ago
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Trump chief of staff says immigration ban 'doesn't include Green Card holders' ind.pn/2kgLAO3

Okay, they've backpedalled on this, to make it look like they're cooperating. I don't buy it. They deliberately bypassed Homeland Security guidelines initially. They knew what they were doing.

The great Tony Benn once gave this warning about how governments treat refugees..

out.reddit.com/t3_3jqq2k?url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs53YCPR.jpg&token=AQAAtRuOWID-Eie6WkRL69YZ6zRfrbhPyKymI8Aj-9efrwCyVVCJ&app_name=mweb2x

Try again

Mexico actually might be financially without much leverage, but from a political and law enforcement standpoint, they can create a lot of problems for the US.

MSNBC ‏*@MSNBC* 8m8 minutes ago
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Reince Priebus muddies the waters on Trump's immigration ban on.msnbc.com/2kBHqh6

Priebus: Immigration Order ‘Doesn’t Include’ Green Card Holders, But Anyone Traveling to Banned Countries Will Be ‘Subjected to Further Screening’

Newsweek ‏*@Newsweek* 11m11 minutes ago
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Germany's Merkel says fight against terrorism is no excuse for travel ban, reminds Trump of Geneva Conventions bit.ly/2k66Ofc

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Jamil Smith ‏*@JamilSmith* 29m29 minutes ago
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An important point from @nayyeroar. The key people who would’ve vetted Trump’s EO were fired from @StateDept.

Anyone Traveling to Banned Countries Will Be ‘Subjected to Further Screening’

To?

Does he mean "from"?
Will people leaving the US for "banned countries" be scrutinised as well?

I like "banned countries". It's a great concept.

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GOP senator: Trump's immigration order "was not properly vetted" huff.to/2k67Ojy

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Laurence Tribe ‏*@tribelaw* 10m10 minutes ago
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Might it help for all five living ex-presidents to join in an open letter to Trump urging him to step back from this deadly brink?