To not want to provide my DC nationality and country of birth to school?!

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What will the government do with the Country of Birth and Nationality?! AIBU to not provide this info?!

I'm dosed up on flu medication noble so I may be missing something. It seems legit.

More tax that you will pay in your whole lifetime NathanBarleyRocks. You don't know WHO anyone is and certainly with your views thus far I expect you haven't got far in life.

I refuse to supply this information. Next we'll all be wearing armbands.

Sorry but that is absolutely offensive!

But really what's the point of not filling it in?

Any teacher could go up to your child and just ask, so Freddie where were you born? France Miss. Thats where my mums from, that's why I speak French.

Or whatever.

So really what's the point? Or are you going to tell your children to keep it a secret too? Should they not be proud of their nationality and place of birth?

And the armband comment was incredibly offensive and hysterical.

It's not the same thing AT ALL.

More tax that you will pay in your whole lifetime NathanBarleyRocks How do you know this? As you must be in the top rate of tax bracket I assume you can well afford private education or a home tutor?

Assuming this is not a state school you are applying to. Apologies if that is a wrong assumption.

More tax that you will pay in your whole lifetime NathanBarleyRocks.

Glad you know the tax returns of all posters.

Not everyone in a top rate tax band chooses to send their kids to private school. In fact few card afford it and it's not relevant to this debate. Of course they can ask my DC but that information is not going to the home office.

It's not school knowing that's the problem. It's the government finding out about families through school. Using children for political purposes.

I find asking for someone's nationality AND place of birth at the same time worrying, too. It's like saying, ok, you're British... what are you really? Indicative of the xenophobic way the country seems to be going. And I am stating that I don't agree with it, not saying I have something to hide. It's not illegal to be foreign. Yet.

But do your children not have passports or NHS numbers? When they are 16 will they receive a NI number? So surely if the home office really wanted to know they could find out anyway?

Honestly I'm just trying to understand because I just don't get it.

wife I think you need to get a grip.

That is never going to happen here. Ever. If by some small far fetched chance the government tried it the public wouldn't allow it. School teachers (I teach children sport) wouldn't allow it, people in positions of trust wouldn't allow it.

Is this really boiling down to a brexit post again? I voted stay by the way but we do really need to be looking towards the future in a good way rather than thinking we are about to go in to a second holocaust. People are more educated and have access to their own infomation that they didn't have in the 30s or 40s.

And what about when your child is older and can fill out their own forms? Are you going to tell them to lie? Or not include it?

Ok so don't provide it... Job done. You're making something out of nothing..

"But do your children not have passports or NHS numbers? When they are 16 will they receive a NI number? So surely if the home office really wanted to know they could find out anyway? "

So why do they need to ask this question of children in state schools? Why do they want that information?

Its for the annual school census - which happens next week.

All students at school have been asked to provide this too - its a new box to tick this year.

I hate it. It's not just schools that are asking for the information.

Businesses are being asked to supply details of all their employee's nationalities too.

I am a governor in a school and have had to provide these details for a national database.

As far as I'm concerned this this racial profiling and it scares me as a non British National who has been living here for a very long time.

more tax than you will pay in your lifetime - ooh, burn!

I've always filled in forms which have stated birth place or town of birth since I can remember. This isn't a new thing

Xenophobic for asking where you were born? Oh do fuck off

'That is never going to happen here?'

I don't think you can be sure of that AT ALL, and to be so is actually really complacent. I think we have to make sure we're paying attention so we don't slide into something horrendous. I mean, I hope I 'm wrong. I hope it isn't going to happen here and never would, but I don't thin we can assume that. If I see something I think points in that direction surely I should draw attention to it?

Ok so don't provide it... Job done. You're making something out of nothing

I agree. Plus you are being pretty offensive.

It is to aid research into education tourism ..... just complete it ... unless you have something to hide.

And there's no need to tell me to fuck off because I disagree with you, potnoodle, especially as you only quoted half of what I said.

it just doesn't sit right with me. I don't see it as relevant to my child's education.

Further info for those who think this is innocuous:

"An investigation by the BBC revealed that Home Office plans in summer 2015 to “deprioritise” the children of illegal immigrants when allocating school places were only dropped when then education secretary Nicky Morgan expressed “strong concerns” over “practical and presentational issues of applying our strong position on illegal migrants to the emotive issue of children’s education”. Given that the home secretary at the time is now PM, this suggests the government wouldn’t rule out less prominent ways of achieving the same result.
The leak follows the recent addition of children’s country-of-birth and nationality data to the information collected in the schools census and added to the National Pupil Database.
“We can see a pattern,” Laura McInerney, editor of Schools Week, which has covered issues around education and immigration extensively, told BuzzFeed News. “In 2013 there was consideration on banning the children of illegal immigrants from schools, but that broke UN rules.
“We now see there was a move by the Home Office to perhaps deprioritise immigrant children.
“While it looks like the DfE has now held off on that, when the same team who were in the Home Office then are now in charge of the country, it is fair to think that perhaps this policy would come back around again, and it might be something that schools are encouraged to do.”"

www.buzzfeed.com/laurasilver/heres-why-people-are-concerned-schools-want-to-know-where-pu?utm_term=.xcdXQxqMKD#.teym82g4RB

It's not something out of nothing though is it?!