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Subway - Halal issue

432 replies

CiderLover · 30/04/2014 16:04

I feel a bit annoyed that 200 Subway stores are removing their Ham and Bacon due to requests from their Muslim customers.

I think the process of producing Halal meat is cruel, but obviously that isn't an issue to Subway.

There are plenty of Subway stores that advertise their pork as being Halal so why this? It's not earth shattering stuff but ...

Should I move to a muslim country and want to open a strip club would that be allowed?

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SistersOfPercy · 30/04/2014 19:22

I shall add it to the Waitrose shop Doctor Wink
only the best halal sausages here

MrsDeVere · 30/04/2014 19:22

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cantbelievethisishppening · 30/04/2014 19:23

Magic why don't you phone your local SW and ask. That way you will soon find out if your life will continue to be worth living

cantbelievethisishppening · 30/04/2014 19:24

Please, don't try and tell me animal welfare with regard to Halal is a genuine concern for the majority. It.isn't.

mrs

SistersOfPercy · 30/04/2014 19:24

MrsD have often wondered how many of the UKIP and BNP and EDL who are so against Halal eat on their all inclusive holidays to countries like Egypt for example.
Principles and holidays in the sun probably don't mix for them.

Caitlin17 · 30/04/2014 19:25

What is "turkey ham"? I haven't eaten turkey in over 40 years but it sounds awful.

WetAugust · 30/04/2014 19:25

Greggs for me from now on. I hope Subway goes bust.

sallysparrow157 · 30/04/2014 19:26

In January 2012 there were 1423 subways in the uk with a view to open 600 more by 2015.

185 subway stores are halal. That is just under 13% of stores (probably an underestimate as they will have opened more stores by now)

Throughout the uk those identifying as Muslim make up 4.8% of the population, but there is a higher percentage of Muslims in larger cities, over 34% in some boroughs of London, 24% in Bradford, 21% in Birmingham for example. There are also more subways in larger cities. So there is probably a similar percentage of halal subways in larger cities as there are Muslim people.

Those people who object to the halal method of slaughter can eat ham and bacon subs to your hearts content in 87% of subways's stores. Those practising the second largest religion in the uk can eat food acceptable to them in 13% of subways's stores.

In America, some subways offer a fully kosher menu, there used to be many more kosher branches but they went back to being non kosher cause they weren't making money. Subway is a business, it doesn't give a monkeys about religion, it just wants to make money. By having the option of halal restaurants they will make more money.

SistersOfPercy · 30/04/2014 19:28

Greggs for me from now on. I hope Subway goes bust.

Yes, losing your custom will cripple a multinational chain.

Have you perhaps considered being even more radical and actually reading the thread?

gordyslovesheep · 30/04/2014 19:28

I want a veggie delight with olives and mayo now :(

cantbelievethisishppening · 30/04/2014 19:28

Subway is a business, it doesn't give a monkeys about religion, it just wants to make money. By having the option of halal restaurants they will make more money.

You don't say! Well fuck me sideways and call me Dan. I had no idea.

cantbelievethisishppening · 30/04/2014 19:30

gordy yes.... There are mild rumbles here to

Joysmum · 30/04/2014 19:33

Stunned or not, death of an animal should be as instant as possible. That to me means that stunning an animal and waiting for it to bleed to death doesn't meet my personal moral code of what's acceptable.

Btw, I'm a humanist so being pro Christian or anti Islam doesn't come into it for me. Animal welfare does.

Oh and I hate the fact that halal means much of the animal is not eaten by believers. That's disrespectful and wasteful of the animal killed.

SistersOfPercy · 30/04/2014 19:34

I'm still waiting for DH to arrive home with a KFC.

Though at some point soon I'm going to have to go and get a meatball marinara on the back of this thread Hmm

GimmeDaBoobehz · 30/04/2014 19:38

Sorry softly I was just responding to the OP, not specifically to anyone else on the thread as had only just skimmed it (at least I'm honest).

I agree though that most halal is prepared appropriately especially in large chain stores in the UK. However, it's individually sourced halal that I'd be less sure of. I think it's the ethics of how halal is proposed to be prepared that bothers me.

MrsDeVere · 30/04/2014 19:41

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EduCated · 30/04/2014 19:44

Ah yes, Gregg's. That bastion of ethically sourced produce Hmm

candycoatedwaterdrops · 30/04/2014 19:52

I wonder if you'd go to Stamford Hill or Golders Green and complain about the number of kosher food shops?

cantbelievethisishppening · 30/04/2014 19:54

Mrs obtuse Smile um......ok. If you say so

cantbelievethisishppening · 30/04/2014 19:55

candy Point. Missed. Well done.

gordyslovesheep · 30/04/2014 19:59

I'm confused how Candy has missed the point - it's a valid question is it not?

candycoatedwaterdrops · 30/04/2014 19:59

cantbelieve Patronising post. Well done.

GobbolinoCat · 30/04/2014 20:00

*Please, don't try and tell me animal welfare with regard to Halal is a genuine concern for the majority. It.isn't.

If it was the EDL would be banging on about Kosher meat but they don't because they do not want to lose the support of a minority of Jewish supports*

Wow from Halaal meat to EDL?

cantbelievethisishppening · 30/04/2014 20:01

Candy why thank you Smile

ThePowerOfMe · 30/04/2014 20:03

Its a franchise. Maybe the owners are Muslim as well as being placed in a predominantly Muslim area.
It would make total business sense to serve halal products and it would be a personal preference to be exclusively halal.

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