to want to know if DogsBestFriend has been banned from mumsnet?

[GetOrf]

Because if she has been I would like to know why.

But Justine, she wasn't aggressive on that thread imo. She was understadably frustrated, but then we all were.

I don't understand this. You let twats like DaftPunk free reign on here for years, yes she was banned in the end but not after seriously hurting people's feelings with her homophobia and racism. DBF shouts at people who she feels are selfish and clueless re dogs, but she has done sterling work both on Mn and off the board with MNers.

She has tried to help TLES on several occasions and was evidently annoyed because she could prove that TLES had spun a web of lies.

Please can you say if you have banned TLES for repeated fabrication and trolling?

and yet the personal attacks on that thread were not made by DBF.

Can we have your reasoning why she was banned given the content of that thread?

If a poster is banned for getting involved in a thread which does contain personal attacks made by other people, just because they have, in the past been warned about making personal attacks themselves, then what hope is there for any of us?

Justine, I believe that you have acted unfairly in this particular instance. Has Tles been banned as well for her behaviour towards DBF?

Oh, FFS.

DBF is outspoken, true, but there was nothing on that thread to warrant a ban.
She's a lovely poster, always ready to help and advise on a variety of topics.

She has been an immense help to so many posters on here.

And you ban her because she was trying to help the dog that the utterly foolish OP can't take care of? Really?

sacre bleu

Personal attacks are obviously Not Good - but pointing out that somebody is in fact shovelling pure horse dung with every post is practically a public service.

Good point GetOrf, what DP was allowed to get away with was awful. The difference between DBF is that DP was doing it deliberately to cause upset. All the fucking time.

I don't agree there was personal attacks from DBF.

Defensive yes as she was being accused of lying, harshly worded yes as she is trying to help the dog and getting frustrated by the OP but this isn't against the rules or we would all be banned!

In fact if anything, if was other posters making personal attacks.

Has the OP been banned also seeing as they must have broken at least 100 rules with all the lies and comments?

Justine, seriously??!! DBF was categorically NOT inflammatory on that thread. On the contrary, she was measured and professional. Really can't believe you're doing this.

MNers will be much the poorer without her around, not to mention the poor bloody dogs.

Justine

But surely a couple of my posts on the thread could have been seen as personal attacks ?

I felt I spoke to the op much more harshly than DBF did ?

DBF consistently tried to help, and it was all rebuffed and she was called a liar for her trouble.

DBF even offered the OP of that thread her own money to reimburse her for the dog and DBF would rescue it!

@GetOrf

But Justine, she wasn't aggressive on that thread imo. She was understadably frustrated, but then we all were.

I don't understand this. You let twats like DaftPunk free reign on here for years, yes she was banned in the end but not after seriously hurting people's feelings with her homophobia and racism. DBF shouts at people who she feels are selfish and clueless re dogs, but she has done sterling work both on Mn and off the board with MNers.

She has tried to help TLES on several occasions and was evidently annoyed because she could prove that TLES had spun a web of lies.

Please can you say if you have banned TLES for repeated fabrication and trolling?

"You are a liar, foolish and a disgrace, not just for what you are doing to this dog but for trying to discredit someone who works her arse off to save them. You appall me..."

Tbh DBF has had free reign on here for some time, saying things like this. The dogma in the Doghouse has gone too far - we've had plenty of people come away really scarred by the aggressive stance of the posting in there and quite simply, it's not what MN's about.

Good.

I don't like bullies.

Yes, has TLES been banned? This is fucking outrageous.

I'm sitting in. And I'm allowing my dog on the sofa in the name of solidarity.

This place needs DBF, surely it's better to speak passionately and act positively rather than let cunting sly trolls drama queens march all over the forum.

I repeat banning someone from an internet forum is about as effective as banning the invisible man from a party. I DON'T GET IT. And I'm very sad about DBF. She actually spoke sense rather than the MN party line.

@ItsonlymeMrsDB

Justine

But surely a couple of my posts on the thread could have been seen as personal attacks ?

I felt I spoke to the op much more harshly than DBF did ?

DBF consistently tried to help, and it was all rebuffed and she was called a liar for her trouble.

Maybe so, but you weren't on a warning for persistant personal attacks. We have to draw the line somewhere or it all goes to hell in a handcart.

I had no idea so many posters hung out in the dog house.

She was banned for that ?? Fucking hell.

Justine, is TLES not a liar? Is that what you are saying?

As a said on the second (now deleted thread) I read the original thread but did not post and don't think DBF did anything to deserve a ban.

How long is it for anyway???

But Justine, TLES had been lying, was foolish and it was a disgrace. DBF was robust, yes, as was I and many others. But how was it a personal attack?

Justine that wasn't a personal attack, that was the truth. I think you've got some warped priorities going on here and I don't like it.

That is most certainly not a nasty personal attack!

"You are a liar, foolish and a disgrace, not just for what you are doing to this dog but for trying to discredit someone who works her arse off to save them. You appall me..."

Well, Tles was proved to be a liar wasn't she?