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Is life always this crappy

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sincerestwonders · Today 13:43

Any one else feel like this but I dunno why my life has been just so hard lately for me and my 17 1/2 year old daughter. Last year I felt completely different, this year I feel burnt out and just bored and unmotivated. I have a guy who keeps coming in and out my life he works abroad so he isnt a stable presence but I feel stuck and dunno if any of you have similar life experience or advice as that would be so useful.
My daughter has not been to school since age 8. I chose not to keep her in school because of some of the things we encountered in her school such as staff pinning kids down in isolation rooms as a punishment and like harming "bad" kids by restraining them in the classroom, which I did not want my young daughter to see or felt was appropriate.
She has been home educated since then. At the minute she has 2 gcses, a 9 in Spanish and 8 in computing/ICT. Her maths and english skills are quite subpar to be honest. She is a good speller, yet struggles with reading long books and guessing the "intention" of authors which is what a lot of GCSE is about. Her maths is reasonable and probably key stage 3 level, not the best but GCSE math standards are so high these days. In the last year she has done a cookery course, several language courses, business administration basics and we were asked to do an art course which she bloody hates and has no artistic talent really but we are 3/5 of the way through that and she just cant think of ideas and hates it and obviously wishes she was doing something else. The obvious thing to do next is driving, but the theory test I dont quite know how to study for it seen as I havent driven since I was in my 20s cos we live in an urban area where we can bus walk everywhere. The other thing I struggle with is deciding on the gold DOFE program. She has done it for 18 months, did all sections and loved the volunteering element. Its done all bits except the Expedition, and honestly how is a weeks walking, eating garbage and carrying a 20kg bag up a mountain useful to the development of a young person? This isnt the 1940s. We originally did this with a dofe open award center. She attended 2 training days. On the first one she was assigned to a team of 5 other girls, all of whom were friends from that posh arse Hills Road college in Cambridge. They ignored and excluded my already friendless daughter and walked ahead. My daughter is 5ft 4 70kg and is not unfit, she does swimming and dance, but no way can she walk 20 miles a day like they suggested with a back breaking Army bergen. The idiots said the expedition was to take place in summer. Considering the heatwaves we have had its a recipe for sun stroke, burns and nausea. On the second day she asked whether she could have a parent see her at a particular point of the day or night as she is high anxiety and gets sick when away overnight from parents she can stay at nanas house without us but it seems being away at night without parents presence is traumatic for her. She went to mendip activity center last year and being away led to panic attacks and a drinking episode. They said no,okay, but I dont think they care about her needs. The food is another troubling element. They suggested eating those gross ration pack boil in a bag meals. My daughter wont eat them preferring fresh foods, and wouldnt eat any with meat in them due to concern of quality. She would have to handle bottle gas, flames, putting up a tent, no contact even a mobile phone with parents, possible injury, carrying own excrement, managing herself miles from anywhere at 17 YEARS OLD what is this SAS basic training? We had her walk 10ks every week, every time her feet would begin to blister and bleed she has size 3 feet for context with the bag on so I decided to leave that centre and look at these expensive private expeditions on canoes but she wont do that either. This has led to a lot of arguments with me and her dad who the dad says stop pushing and she has done enough already. The final issue is she obviously doesnt want to go to uni next year but she just cant think of what job/career to do and seems to have lost interest in anything. Sorry to rant but any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

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Deadleaves77 · Today 13:51

Does your daughter have SEN?

DoNoTakeNo · Today 13:53

If this were in AIBU I’d say that you definitely are, bringing your DD up this way - sorry.
Events like the DoE expeditions teach resilience, as well as practical skills (obviously not all of those are useful every day, but some are sometimes).
I’m not normally this harsh, but imo she needs so much more in her life than the last 9 years have provided her: she’s missed the whole of High School and that leaves a massive gap in any child’s socialisation, resilience, emotional maturity & other critical areas of development.
It doesn’t seem like she is in any way ready for university even if she did have the requisite qualifications.
To give he a fighting chance, I would encourage her to enrol in a local college and get her GCSE Maths & English, with a few others whilst she does that. Then she can start to find her own way in life - and the sooner the better.

DoNoTakeNo · Today 13:54

Deadleaves77 · Today 13:51

Does your daughter have SEN?

Interesting question, @Deadleaves77, I wondered if she is dyslexic.

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sincerestwonders · Today 13:56

She doesnt have SEN but has high anxiety and her development is maybe 2 years or so behind peers she was a highly anxious child but it isnt her or my fault

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BunkBedsArePeopleShelves · Today 13:57

What the hell did I just read? That poor kid

Meadowfinch · Today 13:57

DoNoTakeNo · Today 13:53

If this were in AIBU I’d say that you definitely are, bringing your DD up this way - sorry.
Events like the DoE expeditions teach resilience, as well as practical skills (obviously not all of those are useful every day, but some are sometimes).
I’m not normally this harsh, but imo she needs so much more in her life than the last 9 years have provided her: she’s missed the whole of High School and that leaves a massive gap in any child’s socialisation, resilience, emotional maturity & other critical areas of development.
It doesn’t seem like she is in any way ready for university even if she did have the requisite qualifications.
To give he a fighting chance, I would encourage her to enrol in a local college and get her GCSE Maths & English, with a few others whilst she does that. Then she can start to find her own way in life - and the sooner the better.

This. How is the poor lass going to survive with only half an education?

Naurrr · Today 13:58

There was a post a while ago by someone who was angry with the duke of Edinburgh award and wanted her daughter to be allowed to cheat.

Send your teenager to school and forget the Duke of Edinburgh thing, it's 100% optional.

sincerestwonders · Today 14:00

Everyone says I'm a bad, overprotective parent and Im sick of it. I think taking my daughter out of the pressure and anxiety of school was the best thing to do given circumstance she has had a comprehensive home education to 16 and has done some specialist courses. I am aware she needs more of a social life but she has suffered high anxiety as a kid around school, puberty, her emotions, extreme pressure and demand.

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AnneLovesGilbert · Today 14:02

Bit late now but couldn’t you have moved her to a different school rather than pulling her out completely?

The focus of your upset seems to be DofE so neither she nor you want her to do it why bother? It’s pretty well known what’s involved, her size 3 feet haven’t suddenly shrunk, it’s never easy having fresh food on a camping trip.

Surely she’s better off spending her time on maths and trying to make friends. Is uni even an option without maths GCSE?

It's all very woe is you when you’re largely responsible for how limited her world is at 17. Focus on what can be changed rather than moaning about an avoidable thing like DofE and ration packs.

Absolutely everyone goes through times when life feels crappy, it’s not clear why you feel yours is right now.

sincerestwonders · Today 14:02

I said when she is 18 she can go to college or work, but now I wonder whether to just let her go to college, because she has high anxiety and poor social skills. She has been bullied at primary school and just struggled as a kid to adapt to the school environment.

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sincerestwonders · Today 14:04

I will try and get Maths Functional Skills after Christmas

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Chunkybabythighs · Today 14:04

You keep posting about her and this bloody d of e expedition op. You've ruined her life, she has no maths or English GCSEs and neither of you can figure out how to study for or book a driving theory test?! And you claim to have provided her a full home education? How can she go to uni with 2 GCSEs?

Naurrr · Today 14:05

sincerestwonders · Today 14:02

I said when she is 18 she can go to college or work, but now I wonder whether to just let her go to college, because she has high anxiety and poor social skills. She has been bullied at primary school and just struggled as a kid to adapt to the school environment.

Of course, don't hold her back, get her into school/college.

AnneLovesGilbert · Today 14:05

sincerestwonders · Today 14:00

Everyone says I'm a bad, overprotective parent and Im sick of it. I think taking my daughter out of the pressure and anxiety of school was the best thing to do given circumstance she has had a comprehensive home education to 16 and has done some specialist courses. I am aware she needs more of a social life but she has suffered high anxiety as a kid around school, puberty, her emotions, extreme pressure and demand.

What extreme pressure and demand? She hasn’t been at school for 9 years! Who’s criticising your parenting? How has her education been comprehensive when she’s 17 with nearly no qualifications? You’ve kept her in a tiny bubble, of course she’s got no social skills and is anxious. Did her dad agree with home ed? Does he agree with how anxious you say she is?

sincerestwonders · Today 14:06

Sorry I meant she was struggling with the demands and pressures of school, early puberty and like emotions as a kid in a rough school when she was 8

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Deadleaves77 · Today 14:06

To be honest you have done her any favours pulling her out of school. You havent educated her, or taught her basic life skills.

A 17yo that cant stay away from home is not normal, thats not 2 years behind her peers. A 17yo that cant set up a tent or use a gas stove isnt 'normal', or work out what to eat. Shes very behind, uni is obviously not an option right now as shes neither emotionally or educationally ready in any way.

I agree that the best thing you can do for her is enroll her in a college to get basic GCSE English and Maths.

Meadowfinch · Today 14:07

But without maths and English GCSEs, or even functional alternatives, she's excluded from any further or higher Ed.

Her options are very limited, and she needs to sort that now. Don't leave it any longer.

Have you even considered what her career might be? Sooner or later you have to cut the apron strings and give her the chance to interact with the world. Does she have any experience of men? Or working with others as a team? If she hasn't she is going to be terribly vulnerable. 🙁

sincerestwonders · Today 14:09

Meadowfinch
Exactly thats the problem. She has done volunteering work but doesnt really know what to do after 18 she seems keen to go and visit Europe or do a job in retail admin or languages

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OneoftheWeddingPeople · Today 14:09

Very odd choice to not go to school at all for years then to launch straight into gold Duke of Edinburgh. The whole point of that is that it’s really tough. It’s not an alternative to education.

Minasama · Today 14:09

If her maths and English are sub-par I think you’d need to check if uni is even an option. I also think you may want to organise some professional careers advice/coaching for your daughter that doesn’t involve you, since, while clearly acting with the best of intentions, the results of your decisions in having pulled her out of school have not been ideal.

Reading this, and your original question, I think the answer to why life is so hard may be that you have difficulty accepting the things that you cannot control. This is evidenced by your lengthy description of all the things you disagree with about DofE. It is what it is, you either accept it or you don’t but railing against it and listing all the reasons it doesn’t make sense is a waste of your energy and an unhelpful example to your daughter. (Gold D of E is really tough - my friend who did that was climbing icy mountains in Norway with crampons!!.)

Life works best when we own things (or disown them) and move on.

There is an excellent book called “Let them”, another called “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff” and a general life view of “control the controllable” that I think you may benefit from reading.

It may be that your daughter finds work easier than education, so I do think getting that careers advice will be very positive for her.

sincerestwonders · Today 14:11

I dont think unis an option too, maybe later in life. I just think she needs a bigger social life and to try different work environments

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MiddleAgedDread · Today 14:11

slight aside but are there no checks on parents who home "educate"? Given that childminders get Ofsted inspections does no one check up on the people who are failing to educate their kids?

Autumnallaround · Today 14:11

That 'posh arse hills road' - you mean the one which is full of state school children, which gets umpteen children into university each year?

Your daughter is going to have serious issues functioning as an adult if you don't sort yourself out, take her to register at college and encourage her to get out into the world.

I have an NT/ASD teen, believe me I know how hard it it. But you have to cheerlead for them. Not talk every opportunity down.

sincerestwonders · Today 14:11

Yes, i am a registered home educator. I provide 6 hours of learning 5 days a week and work part time

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sincerestwonders · Today 14:13

Hills Road is for uni bound middle class snobs. You have to have like 8 gcses to get in.

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