Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade

719 replies

PassMeTheInternet · Yesterday 22:49

This is the police escort for the latest small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight.

What on earth is going on with this country?

I don’t know how to link a video from Twitter. The videos show the full extent of the operation.

Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade
OP posts:
Thread gallery
14
EasternStandard · Today 11:54

Catsandcheese · Today 11:45

The bit about the French bringing them and the RNLI picking them up for a start 😂😂😂.
If this wasn’t such an important topic, it would be beyond laughable that there are people out there who believe this sort of thing.

And OP, never mind your non existent links to back up your nonsense, I don’t believe you’ve answered the oft repeated question about how you’d stop the boats.

The French equivalent of RNLI do shadow the boats to the sea border then the coastguard monitor from there.

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 11:54

@notwhingingjuststatingfacts

I really don’t understand what a lot of you want? We are an island nation, people are always going to attempt to get to us by sea. Indeed many of us will have ancestors who made that exact journey if you go back far enough.

And also the effects of climate change. It's going to happen more and more.

Migration is inevitable.

MaturingCheeseball · Today 11:54

The only way to stop the boats is to stop the carrots. Life is far too welcoming at the moment, making a perilous journey worth it.

I have family in Piddington. As far as I can make out they don’t seem to be far-right thugs. They are very worried people. The general theme was ok, if they are there in large numbers, why the hell aren’t they locked up until it is proven who they are and whether their claim is legitimate.

Not one of us can waltz into another country without documentation. I think it is dereliction of duty to its citizens to allow thousands of men to roam the country without any notion of who they are.

inamarina · Today 11:54

Twinmama2026 · Yesterday 23:30

How do they have different attitudes to women? Please be more precise. Every country has men who treats women like dirt including “Great” Britain.

You really can’t see the difference in the way women are treated in Britain and places like Iran or Afghanistan?

Spamatemyraisens · Today 11:54

Dollymylove · Today 11:47

Poland seem to manage very well in keeping illegals out.
Does that mean the Poles are also far right thugs?

Actually the immigration rate in Poland has increased significantly in recent years.

Also, read Prisoners of Geography and you may develop an understanding of how the impact of geography on the issues a country faces.

Gtfto2024 · Today 11:55

Pineneedlesincarpet · Today 11:48

Its not disinformation. What Polish Jews tried to invade German illegally?

Youre trying to liken the British fear of illegal foreign men invading the country to the Holocaust and Hitler whipping up feat against Jews. Its a bit of a stretch. Sorry. We all did GCSE history though. So can judge ourselves if we agree with yout point. Which I personally dont.

Edited

Are you kidding me?

If you think Hitler started with the Jewish population and would have ended it there you are woefully educated.

Mind you, I have heard a Rupert Lowe supporter state that the Nazis were left wing because of the party name. That's a level of ignorance not much below thinking it was all about the Jewish population.

Catsandcheese · Today 11:55

I wonder if the same number coming in were actually women and girls whether everyone would be accepting them with open arms given that the biggest problem seems to be the ‘invasion of fighting aged men’?

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 11:56

The only way to stop the boats is to stop the carrots. Life is far too welcoming at the moment, making a perilous journey worth it.

It isn't a pull factor that is drawing them here. It is the push factor about the place they come from. And it's going to happen more and more as climate change worsens.

PassMeTheInternet · Today 11:56

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Today 11:52

That's far too reasonable a post for half on here to even start to try and listen to.

Yes, we’ve always had boat loads of young Africans arriving, haven’t we? Every century it’s happened, and all the way through the 20th century. It’s a completely normal happening. Why are people making a fuss?

Honestly

OP posts:
Pineneedlesincarpet · Today 11:58

@Gtfto2024

just read the whole thing before you chip in?The PP is trying to liken the border invasion here to the persecution of the Jews. And my point is as far as I tne Jews didnt try and break into Germany.

notwhingingjuststatingfacts · Today 12:00

notwhingingjuststatingfacts · Today 11:49

I really don’t understand what a lot of you want? We are an island nation, people are always going to attempt to get to us by sea. Indeed many of us will have ancestors who made that exact journey if you go back far enough.

You can’t turn the boats around in the sea. That breaks international law. It also puts lives at risk.

So you basically have 2 options.

  1. ignore them and they either drown at sea or arrive here and disappear into the country. or
  2. they are apprehended by the border force (with occasional assistance from the RNKI if necessary) and they are processed. Those that have a case and a right to stay can do so. Those that don’t are deported.

What other options do you want? Leaving people to die out in the channel isn’t humane and isn’t what this country is about.

The bigger issue is what happens to them whilst they are here before their cases are heard. That is what needs resolving.
People pratting about in balaclavas and making a nuisance of themselves does absolutely fuck all but make the situation dangerous. You cannot have Uk citizens turning up and acting in a violent and threatening manner to the police, border staff, RNLI members and those who have come here.

@PassMeTheInternetplease actually respond to this! What do you actually want that is possible?

DogAnxiety · Today 12:00

Oh, I’ll add “nobody cares” to my bingo card too! Thanks.

I’ve seen that a lot on Facebook reels shared by companies’ house evader and prolific criminal Tommeh, Kidnapper/ drug agitator “Danny Tommo” and that muppet Ryan the flag shagger.

AgathaDanbury · Today 12:01

notwhingingjuststatingfacts · Today 11:49

I really don’t understand what a lot of you want? We are an island nation, people are always going to attempt to get to us by sea. Indeed many of us will have ancestors who made that exact journey if you go back far enough.

You can’t turn the boats around in the sea. That breaks international law. It also puts lives at risk.

So you basically have 2 options.

  1. ignore them and they either drown at sea or arrive here and disappear into the country. or
  2. they are apprehended by the border force (with occasional assistance from the RNKI if necessary) and they are processed. Those that have a case and a right to stay can do so. Those that don’t are deported.

What other options do you want? Leaving people to die out in the channel isn’t humane and isn’t what this country is about.

The bigger issue is what happens to them whilst they are here before their cases are heard. That is what needs resolving.
People pratting about in balaclavas and making a nuisance of themselves does absolutely fuck all but make the situation dangerous. You cannot have Uk citizens turning up and acting in a violent and threatening manner to the police, border staff, RNLI members and those who have come here.

The bigger issue is what happens to them whilst they are here before their cases are heard.

The other issue is that it's difficult to repatriate even failed asylum seekers because you have to establish their country of origin and you need co-operation from their country of origin. This is one of the reasons why third country options are increasingly being proposed.

Sammyspurs · Today 12:01

PassMeTheInternet · Today 10:44

Yes, I’m simultaneously slashing boats in the Channel and posting on MN. How clever of you to unmask me 🙄

All the women at the demo at Gosport are Danny Tommi too.

Thought so… you racist bigot 🤣

Dappy777 · Today 12:01

Pineneedlesincarpet · Today 11:09

We're all nazis now, remember. Apparently. Because the majority of the population don't want illegal immigrants.

The real fascists are the left. They have used mass immigration to IMPOSE a new identity on this country. No one voted for multiculturalism.

The left like to think of themselves as the kind, compassionate people. In reality, they are every bit as hate-filled as the so-called 'faaaar-right'. But their hatred is directed towards middle-class 'NIMBYs' who read the Daily Telegraph and live in small villages. They know that mass immigration destroys people's identity. They also know that those middle-class NIMBYs will have their villages ruined by the endless development required to house the immigrants. AND THAT'S WHY THEY SUPPORT MASS IMMIGRATION. It delights the left to see middle-class Mail-readers suffer. Andrew Neather, a speechwriter for Blair, said their plan was "to rub the right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date." Spoken like a true, hate-filled fascist.

Those people in Piddington have no idea how much the left hate them. They have no idea how much pleasure it gives the left to see their lives ruined.

sleepwouldbenice · Today 12:03

JemimaTiggywinkles · Yesterday 23:00

Maybe if our upstanding citizens could behave like humans rather than animals the police wouldn’t need to be there. But when we are required to close lifeboat stations because of horrendous thugs the police are going to need to do all sorts of protection work that should be completely unnecessary.

People who have crossed in small boats should be detained and processed properly. Such a shame that police protection is required in order for immigration officials to carry out their duties.

This

AgathaDanbury · Today 12:04

Dappy777 · Today 12:01

The real fascists are the left. They have used mass immigration to IMPOSE a new identity on this country. No one voted for multiculturalism.

The left like to think of themselves as the kind, compassionate people. In reality, they are every bit as hate-filled as the so-called 'faaaar-right'. But their hatred is directed towards middle-class 'NIMBYs' who read the Daily Telegraph and live in small villages. They know that mass immigration destroys people's identity. They also know that those middle-class NIMBYs will have their villages ruined by the endless development required to house the immigrants. AND THAT'S WHY THEY SUPPORT MASS IMMIGRATION. It delights the left to see middle-class Mail-readers suffer. Andrew Neather, a speechwriter for Blair, said their plan was "to rub the right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date." Spoken like a true, hate-filled fascist.

Those people in Piddington have no idea how much the left hate them. They have no idea how much pleasure it gives the left to see their lives ruined.

They have used mass immigration to IMPOSE a new identity on this country.

Is anyone stopping you from drinking tea? playing cricket? going to church? going to the pub?

GiaGia16 · Today 12:04

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 11:13

Do not mistake your little subculture, underclass group, for 'the majority'. You're just campaigning for the current iteration of the BUF/BNP/NF/BNP. Your 'party' will go the same way as all the others because ultimately, no one likes a fascist.

You do know that uncontrolled immigration is concern #1 for British citizens?

MaturingCheeseball · Today 12:04

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 11:56

The only way to stop the boats is to stop the carrots. Life is far too welcoming at the moment, making a perilous journey worth it.

It isn't a pull factor that is drawing them here. It is the push factor about the place they come from. And it's going to happen more and more as climate change worsens.

I don’t think one single man is coming here because of climate change. They are fed constant TikToks of how much better life is here. I saw some migrant men on Lampedusa (Italy) interviewed, and their reasons for wanting to go to Germany were “house, Mercedes, women”.

Catsandcheese · Today 12:04

Pineneedlesincarpet · Today 11:58

@Gtfto2024

just read the whole thing before you chip in?The PP is trying to liken the border invasion here to the persecution of the Jews. And my point is as far as I tne Jews didnt try and break into Germany.

Edited

You misunderstand. Why am I not surprised.
You are being fed propaganda telling you that these migrants are coming here and taking all your welfare away from you. They’re the reason women and girls are murdered and raped, they’re the reason you can’t get a job or a school place or a doctors appointment. You hate them now. That is where the similarities arise. Hitler did not operate in a vacuum, he had to whip everyone up into a frenzy about all these kinds of things and the people the Germans were encouraged to hate were the Jews, the Gypsies, the gay communities etc.
Have a wee think.

Neddevine · Today 12:05

Pineneedlesincarpet · Today 11:52

Well you can turn the boats around. Or you can steer them to off shore processing, like a big boat. No need for them to set foot here.

Parliament is sovereign remember. We can do what we want if we have the will and are prepared to face the consequences. Rather than giving up.

Off shore processing? Managed by whom? What big boats would you use? What if people drowned after they were turned around? Then what?

DogAnxiety · Today 12:05

@PassMeTheInternet, I mean in the 1600s and 1700s we largely skipped landing them in the uk and took ‘em straight off to Caribbean….

EasternStandard · Today 12:05

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 11:54

@notwhingingjuststatingfacts

I really don’t understand what a lot of you want? We are an island nation, people are always going to attempt to get to us by sea. Indeed many of us will have ancestors who made that exact journey if you go back far enough.

And also the effects of climate change. It's going to happen more and more.

Migration is inevitable.

Atm Labour are selling in the numbers are falling. If that reverses they’ll find it very difficult.

PassMeTheInternet · Today 12:06

notwhingingjuststatingfacts · Today 11:49

I really don’t understand what a lot of you want? We are an island nation, people are always going to attempt to get to us by sea. Indeed many of us will have ancestors who made that exact journey if you go back far enough.

You can’t turn the boats around in the sea. That breaks international law. It also puts lives at risk.

So you basically have 2 options.

  1. ignore them and they either drown at sea or arrive here and disappear into the country. or
  2. they are apprehended by the border force (with occasional assistance from the RNKI if necessary) and they are processed. Those that have a case and a right to stay can do so. Those that don’t are deported.

What other options do you want? Leaving people to die out in the channel isn’t humane and isn’t what this country is about.

The bigger issue is what happens to them whilst they are here before their cases are heard. That is what needs resolving.
People pratting about in balaclavas and making a nuisance of themselves does absolutely fuck all but make the situation dangerous. You cannot have Uk citizens turning up and acting in a violent and threatening manner to the police, border staff, RNLI members and those who have come here.

Yes, the invasions by the vikings, angles, jutes and saxons are exactly the same 😂How dare people object when they’re probably descended from the saxons.

Small boat arrivals at Gosport tonight - huge police motorcade
OP posts:
notwhingingjuststatingfacts · Today 12:07

Dappy777 · Today 12:01

The real fascists are the left. They have used mass immigration to IMPOSE a new identity on this country. No one voted for multiculturalism.

The left like to think of themselves as the kind, compassionate people. In reality, they are every bit as hate-filled as the so-called 'faaaar-right'. But their hatred is directed towards middle-class 'NIMBYs' who read the Daily Telegraph and live in small villages. They know that mass immigration destroys people's identity. They also know that those middle-class NIMBYs will have their villages ruined by the endless development required to house the immigrants. AND THAT'S WHY THEY SUPPORT MASS IMMIGRATION. It delights the left to see middle-class Mail-readers suffer. Andrew Neather, a speechwriter for Blair, said their plan was "to rub the right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date." Spoken like a true, hate-filled fascist.

Those people in Piddington have no idea how much the left hate them. They have no idea how much pleasure it gives the left to see their lives ruined.

What utter bollocks!!!
This country has been built on immigration going right back through the ages. The Saxons, the romans, the vikings, need I go on?
We have a rich beautiful culture that is made up of language, religion and culture from all over the world. Even a brief history of the UK would tell you that.

People coming here now does not change that. Especially people who come here and are sent back home. Culture survives because people choose to keep it alive or don’t.

A strong component of British culture was always to be a reliable port in a storm. A friend to all. If culture is being lost it’s because of the hateful narratives being spread not because a small number of people have crossed the channel in a boat.