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Thread 2 Burnham : Coragem e Esperança.

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DuncinToffee · 23/07/2026 09:14

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BIossomtoes · 28/07/2026 11:20

5128gap · 28/07/2026 11:15

Tell him he reminds you of Farage in them?

Good call. Although some of Mr B’s worst sartorial choices have accidentally found their way into the charity bag. Ooops.

PickAChew · 28/07/2026 11:23

5128gap · 28/07/2026 11:15

Tell him he reminds you of Farage in them?

Good one. They keep landing in a dark wash in an attempt to at least make them a little less peachy in tone.

5128gap · 28/07/2026 11:30

My son will say to his dad "Stop Reece-Mogging me" I have to say its done wonders and the stern over the specs look has all but vanished now.

cardibach · 28/07/2026 11:31

BIWI · 28/07/2026 11:15

I wonder how many Clacton residents will even bother to turn out to vote?

I would if I lived there. I suspect the anti-Farage vote will be quite strong. Remains to be seen whether the Farage voters, who don’t, let’s remember, habitually vote (in many cases), turn out or not…

BIossomtoes · 28/07/2026 12:03

cardibach · 28/07/2026 11:31

I would if I lived there. I suspect the anti-Farage vote will be quite strong. Remains to be seen whether the Farage voters, who don’t, let’s remember, habitually vote (in many cases), turn out or not…

I’d definitely vote if I lived there. I’d enjoy putting my X next to Binface too.

placemats · 28/07/2026 12:07

I'd probably vote for Farage to make him pay and be accountable.

countrygirl99 · 28/07/2026 12:51

Delayed tax from me as I've been camping at an event where DH was competing with one of the dogs. Took the non competing dog off for a nice long beach walk as we weren't allowed to distract them. It was a bit windy.

Thread 2 Burnham : Coragem e Esperança.
5128gap · 28/07/2026 13:03

placemats · 28/07/2026 12:07

I'd probably vote for Farage to make him pay and be accountable.

I think he has more chance of bouncing back from being held accountable than from a loss in Clacton. His supporters are keen on the idea of the establishment conspiracy so will be mistrustful of the process and outcome. What he wouldn't come back from is humiliation by the public after banging on about they're the only ones who should judge him.

placemats · 28/07/2026 13:07

5128gap · 28/07/2026 13:03

I think he has more chance of bouncing back from being held accountable than from a loss in Clacton. His supporters are keen on the idea of the establishment conspiracy so will be mistrustful of the process and outcome. What he wouldn't come back from is humiliation by the public after banging on about they're the only ones who should judge him.

Voting him back in is a judgement though. More along the lines of you started this, you shall finish it.

cardibach · 28/07/2026 13:12

I can see the advantages of both outcomes - which is why it’s so fab. Lose-lose for Farage, win-win for everyone else.

placemats · 28/07/2026 13:21

cardibach · 28/07/2026 13:12

I can see the advantages of both outcomes - which is why it’s so fab. Lose-lose for Farage, win-win for everyone else.

What's the advantage if Farage loses, apart from humiliation which he's very much used to in his political career.

BIossomtoes · 28/07/2026 13:39

placemats · 28/07/2026 13:21

What's the advantage if Farage loses, apart from humiliation which he's very much used to in his political career.

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He’d be done. He’d never recover from the humiliation nor would the rest of his company party. Without Farage there’s no Reform.

cardibach · 28/07/2026 13:44

placemats · 28/07/2026 13:21

What's the advantage if Farage loses, apart from humiliation which he's very much used to in his political career.

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He’s not an MP. The people of Clacton aren’t represented by a racist. The humiliation will set him back. Also some of the investigations aren’t dependent on him being an MP so he’ll still face those - plus the consequences of the parliamentary investigation just give him another chance to run a by election, which he might win in a normal set up.

cardibach · 28/07/2026 13:45

Actually if he can sell ‘the establishment stitched me up’ after an investigation he’s probably quite likely to win off the back of it.

SerendipityJane · 28/07/2026 14:30

cardibach · 28/07/2026 13:45

Actually if he can sell ‘the establishment stitched me up’ after an investigation he’s probably quite likely to win off the back of it.

The thing is a bank robber or paedophile can also claim they are being "stitched up by the establishment", if you want to look at it that way. As can anyone who wants to break the law.

It's not a great argument.

TemperanceWest · 28/07/2026 14:30

Badenoch has lost the one small thing she had going for her 😬

Thread 2 Burnham : Coragem e Esperança.
Efacsen · 28/07/2026 14:39

Farage, Badenoch, Polanski, Davey all losing ground to Burnham

Burnham has clear lead over all other main party leaders on who would make best PM, poll suggests

DuncinToffee · 28/07/2026 14:42

Starmer didn't do that badly.

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placemats · 28/07/2026 14:56

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4ker2y1mko

Chris Philp smiles in a retake of 'warning' shots from the French navy when discussing 'small boats' whilst two miles from French shores in a fairly large boat.

MP Chris Philp, in a grey t-shirt, stands on a boat in the sea. A large, grey ship is visible in the background.

French Navy carries out shooting drill in English Channel mid BBC interview

Shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp says the vessel fired 17 shots as he was giving a BBC interview.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4ker2y1mko

TemperanceWest · 28/07/2026 14:57

DuncinToffee · 28/07/2026 14:42

Starmer didn't do that badly.

No he didn't. But Burnham is doing better.

Early days yet, though.

PickAChew · 28/07/2026 14:58

placemats · 28/07/2026 14:56

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4ker2y1mko

Chris Philp smiles in a retake of 'warning' shots from the French navy when discussing 'small boats' whilst two miles from French shores in a fairly large boat.

He has to be shitstirring with that assertion.

placemats · 28/07/2026 15:00

He's the Shadow Home Secretary nobody knows about. His name is Chris Philp

TemperanceWest · 28/07/2026 15:00

Totally @PickAChew

placemats · 28/07/2026 15:03

TemperanceWest · 28/07/2026 14:57

No he didn't. But Burnham is doing better.

Early days yet, though.

It's a week. Am I the only person who finds this weird. Next time it'll be 24 hours in and what have they done for us?

SerendipityJane · 28/07/2026 15:04

TemperanceWest · 28/07/2026 14:30

Badenoch has lost the one small thing she had going for her 😬

You need to be careful with some of those polls. Without seeing the actual questions, you can't tell how much "curating" has gone on.

As a point in hand. did they offer a "none of the above" option ?

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