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Thread 2 Burnham : Coragem e Esperança.

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DuncinToffee · 23/07/2026 09:14

Welcome to our long running thread for political discussion, general chit chat, a friendly hug and taxes in kind

Flowers🍦 for anyone who needs them

New PM, new thread title, the discussion continues.

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5556659-thread-1-burnham-esperanza-en-cada-corazon?page=40

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SpidersAreShitheads · 23/07/2026 11:32

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:25

BeesAreNotShitheads!

😂😂😂😂 Indeed not!

I don’t even want spiders killed - I just don’t want them anywhere near me. They unfortunately make a habit of running straight at me because, as I say, shitheads.

@Cheguevarahamster - thank you! This was a random NC about three years ago but I ended up sticking with it 😂

cardibach · 23/07/2026 11:33

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:22

Maybe I'll just become one of those people living in the lap of luxury on UCs. I'll get a goat and a flat screen TV and have 17 children and a posh cat. But no tax to pay so the goat and cat remain enigmatic.

I’ve rarely need the laugh reaction more! 😂😂
referring back to the last thread - @BIossomtoes i don’t think the press will get tired of Haigh’s fraud conviction. They never let up on the glasses and that was all above board.

Scrabbling down the back of the sofa for tax today - I’ve borrowed from a friend in order to pay. This is Helga, a little dog my friend has been fostering for almost 18 months. She desperately needs a quiet, adult only, pet free home. She’s gorgeous and hilarious. (Also she loves her ducky).

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PickAChew · 23/07/2026 11:37

I've claimed a council tax rebate so I can pay yous, now.

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placemats · 23/07/2026 11:40

SerendipityJane · 23/07/2026 10:20

More than 120 millionaires.. have signed an open letter urging PM Andy Burnham to tax their wealth. The campaign, called 'Proud to Pay' says a 2% tax on wealth over £10m could raise £24 billion a year.

Gillian Keegan, former Conservative MP, said on Newsnight that they can already pay the extra tax if they wanted to.

(a) who says they haven't ?
(b) it's interesting that irregular donations of millions seems to be a "go to" policy for Tories. Interesting.

Those who promote the lazy line that the rich can always pay extra tax voluntarily are 'unwell' in the Jeffrey Bernard sense.

cardibach · 23/07/2026 11:40

Incidentally if you are interested in little Helga, or in helping her find a home, she’s got an Instagram account called helganeedsahome which you could follow and share!

SpidersAreShitheads · 23/07/2026 11:41

On a more serious note, and returning to a post from the end of the last thread - the issue of business tax on vape shops.

I haven’t seen this on the news today but how is it decided what shops aren’t “positive”?

I don’t smoke, I don’t vape, and I agree the constant vape shops are irritating. So if I were being selfish I wouldn’t care if they all disappeared, but it’s not really about that.

I’m just not sure about the government deciding what businesses are worthy and what aren’t? Does this already happen and it’s just passed me by?

(Also, I’m going to mention this once and not repeat it but I’m autistic and sometimes fail to see the wider picture, so apologies in advance if I’m missing the obvious…)

DuncinToffee · 23/07/2026 11:41

The 'taxes' are a nice way to place mark, I have no idea when it first happened, long before I started posting.

The foreign thread titles were introduced to keep not so genuine posters at bay. And it's a bit of fun.

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Cheguevarahamster · 23/07/2026 11:43

I am paying my tax. These are figures made by Troublemaker games - wargaming shop.The Count Binface figure has been a huge success and has been endorsed by the great space alien himself. Sales are raising a large amount of money for NHS charities. I have no idea who the other bloke is - apparently his name is Lionel Garbage.And yes - I have ordered both figures and will ask my DH (who is a miniature figure painting extraordinaire) to paint them.

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placemats · 23/07/2026 11:44

Love that 😍

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:44

The Luton North MP, Sarah Owen is NI sec. I mean... I guess there are loads of Irish people in Luton.

She is fab, though.

cardibach · 23/07/2026 11:47

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:44

The Luton North MP, Sarah Owen is NI sec. I mean... I guess there are loads of Irish people in Luton.

She is fab, though.

Edited

I thought it was Chris Bryant

placemats · 23/07/2026 11:48

SpidersAreShitheads · 23/07/2026 11:41

On a more serious note, and returning to a post from the end of the last thread - the issue of business tax on vape shops.

I haven’t seen this on the news today but how is it decided what shops aren’t “positive”?

I don’t smoke, I don’t vape, and I agree the constant vape shops are irritating. So if I were being selfish I wouldn’t care if they all disappeared, but it’s not really about that.

I’m just not sure about the government deciding what businesses are worthy and what aren’t? Does this already happen and it’s just passed me by?

(Also, I’m going to mention this once and not repeat it but I’m autistic and sometimes fail to see the wider picture, so apologies in advance if I’m missing the obvious…)

There used to be a vape shop a couple of doors down from me. It closed down and the note on the door cited spurious planning reasons for it. It's now my local pharmacy, which obtained the proper planning permission.

placemats · 23/07/2026 11:50

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:44

The Luton North MP, Sarah Owen is NI sec. I mean... I guess there are loads of Irish people in Luton.

She is fab, though.

Edited

It's Sir Chris Bryant. The Irish diaspora is prevalent throughout the UK.

LlynTegid · 23/07/2026 11:51

So far all these changes to reduce the cost of living have come out of the public purse.

How about some that rip-off businesses or those very profitable being required to change. Ending dynamic pricing for gigs/concerts, having broadband contracts not put up annual charges by greater than CPI, for example. There will be others.

LlynTegid · 23/07/2026 11:52

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:44

The Luton North MP, Sarah Owen is NI sec. I mean... I guess there are loads of Irish people in Luton.

She is fab, though.

Edited

Probably the only positive thing you can say about Luton apart from the easy ways of leaving.

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:56

placemats · 23/07/2026 11:50

It's Sir Chris Bryant. The Irish diaspora is prevalent throughout the UK.

Oh, I think she is under secretary then?

itsgettingweird · 23/07/2026 11:57

I’m paying my tax with a photo of the Paralympics billboard because I think it’s an important message and very apt right now with all the disability propaganda.

im setting myself a task to keep up with these threads this summer.

We’ve been to Sheffield for British champs where ds competed in the para swimming , school has now broken up so I’m off for 6 weeks 🎉

All my test results came back normal so the good news is nothing indicates cancer but I still have a large lump in my stomach - lord knows why or what it is though! Waiting for GP to get back to me so I may find out in 2032 🤣

Seems like Burnham is off to a good start. He’s far more left wing than me but I live in hope someone is going to get it right for the country so wish him luck and hope his policies work out.

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Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:57

Lots in Luton though placemats. Including - oh dear- one Steven Yaxley Lennon.

placemats · 23/07/2026 12:00

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:56

Oh, I think she is under secretary then?

Not according to this

members.parliament.uk/member/4777/career

PickAChew · 23/07/2026 12:00

placemats · 23/07/2026 11:48

There used to be a vape shop a couple of doors down from me. It closed down and the note on the door cited spurious planning reasons for it. It's now my local pharmacy, which obtained the proper planning permission.

We've had a few vape shops, phone accessory shops and random minimarts and greengrocers closed down for selling illegal vapes under the counter. One re-opened as a butcher that happened to sell vapes and also got closed down. The "greengrocer" was also rumoured to be offering other "services" , upstairs.

So I'm wondering how the distinction will be made, too. No onw would argue against a greengrocer, unaware of a sordid and exploitative offering of "happy endings".

TheBluebird · 23/07/2026 12:00

Can I join? I like a bit of general good natured politics.
Tax enclosed. This is my favourite tree, known in our family as the broccoli tree for obvious reasons. It looks good cloaked in green or bare in winter.

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placemats · 23/07/2026 12:04

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:57

Lots in Luton though placemats. Including - oh dear- one Steven Yaxley Lennon.

Everyone throughout the UK is desperate to have an Irish grandmother or parents to get an Irish passport.

5128gap · 23/07/2026 12:11

placemats · 23/07/2026 10:55

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/23/who-is-miatta-fahnbulleh-the-radical-thinking-new-uk-energy-secretary

This is a positive article about Fahnbulleh, the new energy secretary for state. Note her resignation letter to Starmer.

" "We have not acted with the vision, pace and ambition our mandate for change demands of us,” she told Keir Starmer in her blunt resignation letter."

I'd not heard her speak before Monday. I formed a really positive first impression. Found her very upbeat and easy to listen to.

BIossomtoes · 23/07/2026 12:15

SpidersAreShitheads · 23/07/2026 11:24

Being quite new to this series of threads, I have to confess to not quite understanding the tax thing 🫣

However, I submit a photo of a little bee that got stuck in my skylight, being revived with sugar water in the garden. We thought he was almost dead so were delighted when he flew off invigorated!

So pleased to see you, I was hoping you’d find us.

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 12:29

placemats · 23/07/2026 12:04

Everyone throughout the UK is desperate to have an Irish grandmother or parents to get an Irish passport.

Yeah, I know this but Luton has a large Irish community, always has had! Tommy's mother is Irish. I don't think the Irish are evenly spread, you know...