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Thread 2 Burnham : Coragem e Esperança.

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DuncinToffee · 23/07/2026 09:14

Welcome to our long running thread for political discussion, general chit chat, a friendly hug and taxes in kind

Flowers🍦 for anyone who needs them

New PM, new thread title, the discussion continues.

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derxa · 25/07/2026 22:42

I dislike Trump but after today I’ll never forget the dismissal of my family’s grief. I laid my feelings open and all people could do was sneer.

TemperanceWest · 25/07/2026 22:52

derxa · 25/07/2026 22:42

I dislike Trump but after today I’ll never forget the dismissal of my family’s grief. I laid my feelings open and all people could do was sneer.

Not one person on this thread has sneered at or dismissed your grief or your family's, derxa. One person mentioned that you were fortunate to recieve an inheritance, then offered condolences when you explained where that inheritance came from.

pointythings · 25/07/2026 22:53

derxa · 25/07/2026 22:42

I dislike Trump but after today I’ll never forget the dismissal of my family’s grief. I laid my feelings open and all people could do was sneer.

@derxa, nobody is dismissing your grief. It is very sad that your brother died so young.

That does not alter the fact that you were privileged by inheritance to be able to afford private education for your children. Both things can be true at the same time.

derxa · 25/07/2026 22:54

TemperanceWest · 25/07/2026 22:52

Not one person on this thread has sneered at or dismissed your grief or your family's, derxa. One person mentioned that you were fortunate to recieve an inheritance, then offered condolences when you explained where that inheritance came from.

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Wrong. One person offered condolences then admonished me for my posts.

BIossomtoes · 25/07/2026 22:57

Grossly unfair @derxa. I too know the pain of losing a sibling far too soon and nothing said here in any way trivialises your loss.

derxa · 25/07/2026 22:58

pointythings · 25/07/2026 22:53

@derxa, nobody is dismissing your grief. It is very sad that your brother died so young.

That does not alter the fact that you were privileged by inheritance to be able to afford private education for your children. Both things can be true at the same time.

I didn’t feel privileged. I was deep
in grief. Would you rather I spent the money on holidays.

derxa · 25/07/2026 23:06

I’ll never forget those days. After we put our boys into private school our friends turned against us and indeed started horrible rumours about me. As I recall they were Labour supporters. The milk of human kindness eh.

TemperanceWest · 25/07/2026 23:07

derxa · 25/07/2026 22:54

Wrong. One person offered condolences then admonished me for my posts.

I am really very sorry that your brother died so young. But that doesn't mean your posts or your views can't be challenged. Most of us here will have suffered awful losses or be facing personal difficulties.

PickAChew · 25/07/2026 23:08

DuncinToffee · 25/07/2026 21:15

Lab Lib pact?

This would.be fantastic. Such big, seemingly insurmountable issues need cross party collaboration.

derxa · 25/07/2026 23:09

TemperanceWest · 25/07/2026 23:07

I am really very sorry that your brother died so young. But that doesn't mean your posts or your views can't be challenged. Most of us here will have suffered awful losses or be facing personal difficulties.

I wouldn’t go after someone who had suffered a terrible bereavement.

pointythings · 25/07/2026 23:09

derxa · 25/07/2026 22:58

I didn’t feel privileged. I was deep
in grief. Would you rather I spent the money on holidays.

It doesn't matter what anyone would rather. What matters is that you were one of the 7% in the UK who could afford private school - and that happened because a horrible event came with a small silver lining.

All across the UK, people lose family members young but don't get an inheritance that will fund private education for their kids, so they just have to get on with state. So yes, your silver lining was absolutely a piece of privilege, however you spin it. As I said, both things can be true at the same time. Life is like that.

TemperanceWest · 25/07/2026 23:09

derxa · 25/07/2026 23:06

I’ll never forget those days. After we put our boys into private school our friends turned against us and indeed started horrible rumours about me. As I recall they were Labour supporters. The milk of human kindness eh.

Those people were absolute bastards. There are horrible people of every political persuasion.

derxa · 25/07/2026 23:11

TemperanceWest · 25/07/2026 23:09

Those people were absolute bastards. There are horrible people of every political persuasion.

Thank you. I don’t think people on here are like that. It’s not possible.

Efacsen · 25/07/2026 23:14

Sigh

Don't understand why PP engage with this poster - they are never here with good intentions

derxa · 25/07/2026 23:34

Efacsen · 25/07/2026 23:14

Sigh

Don't understand why PP engage with this poster - they are never here with good intentions

I assure you all my posts are
genuine You might not like them but that’s not my fault.

DuncinToffee · 26/07/2026 00:08

I don't know what you want from us tbh, one moment you are having a go and the next you are seeking support.

I agree with Efacsen, I can't be bothered with your comments any more.

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derxa · 26/07/2026 03:08

DuncinToffee · 26/07/2026 00:08

I don't know what you want from us tbh, one moment you are having a go and the next you are seeking support.

I agree with Efacsen, I can't be bothered with your comments any more.

Such an interesting post. I don’t want anything from you.

Zonder · 26/07/2026 03:09

derxa · 25/07/2026 23:09

I wouldn’t go after someone who had suffered a terrible bereavement.

I have read back on the thread. Nobody went after you. You quoted a post you didn't like but the second half of that post by Saucery was making a key point you chose to ignore in order to show upset.

Zonder · 26/07/2026 03:11

To clarify, here's Saucery's post - written to make a point that it's a bit rubbish to throw unfair assumptions about.

Lucky old you, coming into an inheritance that was enough to send your DC private. Since you like to throw unfair assumptions about, there’s mine

BIossomtoes · 26/07/2026 08:17

The amount of money funnelled into Reform coffers via Fiona Cottrell is staggering.

Notonthestairs · 26/07/2026 08:19

BIossomtoes · 26/07/2026 08:17

The amount of money funnelled into Reform coffers via Fiona Cottrell is staggering.

35% of all payments to Reform over the election period.
Not bad for a retired stylist.

BIossomtoes · 26/07/2026 08:22

They kept very quiet about their bank account being frozen. Given Farage’s very public fury about Coutts you’d have expected them to have been shouting about establishment scheming and claiming victimisation. Crickets.

Notonthestairs · 26/07/2026 08:26

I assume that’s because it’s led to a National Crime Agency investigation.

placemats · 26/07/2026 08:26

It rained here a lot during the night. Quite annoyed I missed it.

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