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Would you object to this comment in a headteacher’s staff address? WWYD?

167 replies

Meckrel · Yesterday 14:38

End of term address to staff by the HT of a large and successful secondary school.

There were some tech problems at the start and he opened his remarks by saying "two things I hate, microphones and women who say no".

Now, who knows what he was actually thinking. I don't think (hope) he meant sexually, but even in the context of "difficult" women that's not OK for a teacher and employer to say? Is it?

It was an address to staff thanking them for the year etc etc. Most people laughed. Would you?

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OriginalSkang · Yesterday 16:57

I work in a university and if someone said this to staff they would absolutely be explaining it to HR. People would be outraged.

Butnotreally1 · Yesterday 16:59

Meckrel · Yesterday 16:51

I'm not sure what you're picturing but there are 200 staff at the school. I don't actually speak to HT much at all.

Surely you speak to colleagues
were they not horrified too?

Viviennemary · Yesterday 17:01

It's pretty cringey. But I wouldn't complain.

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orangehandles · Yesterday 17:05

I'd be appalled at a remark like that. Were there any school Governors present at the meeting?

Passingthrough123 · Yesterday 17:06

I might not have laughed but I would assume there was context to the comment, about whatever was going on with the tech issues and whoever helped him sort it out. I wouldn't jump to grabbing my pitchfork or assume it was sexually motivated.

FinallyHere · Yesterday 17:08

That is really. It ok, from anyone never mind a member of the leadership team

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 17:08

I don’t know what’s ickier, the actual comment or all the women on this thread trying to defend it.

EnidSpyton · Yesterday 17:13

Passingthrough123 · Yesterday 17:06

I might not have laughed but I would assume there was context to the comment, about whatever was going on with the tech issues and whoever helped him sort it out. I wouldn't jump to grabbing my pitchfork or assume it was sexually motivated.

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If we replaced what the HT said with 'black people' or 'Jewish people' then we'd all agree that it was a totally inappropriate comment.

Sexism is no different to racism. It's discrimination, it's not ok, and even if meant 'in jest' or casually, it needs to be challenged. It amazes and saddens me that so many women on this thread think it's ok for men to throw out casually sexist comments in professional settings.

BauhausOfEliott · Yesterday 17:15

Yeah, that's a spectacularly misjudged comment in a work environment.

MyDarlingRose · Yesterday 17:16

Of course not. Rape culture supported by a teacher? Unacceptable.

Id hope he meant say no to a date. But I doubt it.

whatsthisMN · Yesterday 17:17

Wow.

If my child attended this school, I’d want this addressed.

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 17:22

MyDarlingRose · Yesterday 17:16

Of course not. Rape culture supported by a teacher? Unacceptable.

Id hope he meant say no to a date. But I doubt it.

No to a date would still be bad. No one owes him a date, or deserves “hate” for rejecting him.

MyDarlingRose · Yesterday 17:23

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 17:22

No to a date would still be bad. No one owes him a date, or deserves “hate” for rejecting him.

No but it’s ok to dislike being rejected. That’s normal.

AgnesMcDoo · Yesterday 17:31

That’s horrendous

orangehandles · Yesterday 17:32

MyDarlingRose · Yesterday 17:23

No but it’s ok to dislike being rejected. That’s normal.

It is not normal or acceptable to make a comment like that in a professional setting.

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 17:32

Roulett · Yesterday 14:42

Women who say no? WTF? That’s actually unbelievable and even if it were a joke it’s unacceptable especially for someone in his position. I can’t think of an explanation where it’s ok.

This!

Maddy70 · Yesterday 17:33

I was a head teacher. That remark is not acceptable. At all! It was probably nerves as it's awful addressing the masses with tech that doesn't work but that's unforgivable

Passingthrough123 · Yesterday 17:36

EnidSpyton · Yesterday 17:13

If we replaced what the HT said with 'black people' or 'Jewish people' then we'd all agree that it was a totally inappropriate comment.

Sexism is no different to racism. It's discrimination, it's not ok, and even if meant 'in jest' or casually, it needs to be challenged. It amazes and saddens me that so many women on this thread think it's ok for men to throw out casually sexist comments in professional settings.

Fair point, you're right. I guess I'm just being suspicious. It's the end of term and suddenly there's a slew of anti-teacher threads by new posters that get people frothing. This one just goes further by being about a male HT.

Megifer · Yesterday 17:37

MyDarlingRose · Yesterday 17:23

No but it’s ok to dislike being rejected. That’s normal.

Its not ok or normal to announce he hates women who turn him down for dates in a meeting.

On the very slight chance he was referring to dates im sure he'd be mortified and also grateful to be made aware that his 'joke' could be taken in an even worse way.

ginasevern · Yesterday 17:46

Jeez, horrendous on every level. It would've been questionable from someone in his position 30 years ago ffs.

ldnmusic87 · Yesterday 17:47

I hate jokes like that, shame on those who laughed.

LaurieFairyCake · Yesterday 17:50

I would assume it was meant as ‘Women who say no WHEN I ASK THEM OUT’ not sexual assault 😟

as in a lighthearted deprecating ‘no one will go out with me’ joke

IdaGlossop · Yesterday 17:51

Not only a sexist HT but a stupid one. He's insulted at least half his staff and about half of the school's pupils.

Butnotreally1 · Yesterday 17:52

Is he married?

ChalkOutlines · Yesterday 17:56

LaurieFairyCake · Yesterday 17:50

I would assume it was meant as ‘Women who say no WHEN I ASK THEM OUT’ not sexual assault 😟

as in a lighthearted deprecating ‘no one will go out with me’ joke

Careful you don’t pull a muscle with those mental gymnastics.

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