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Thread 1 Burnham: Esperanza en cada Corazón

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DuncinToffee · 20/07/2026 12:45

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DuncinToffee · 20/07/2026 19:21

For anyone on BSky

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I think it is an official account, but not completely sure. Follow at your own peril Smile

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SpidersAreShitheads · 20/07/2026 19:23

TemperanceWest · 20/07/2026 19:18

No sign of Streeting so far.

I was undecided whether Streeting had done a pact with Burnham behind the scenes in return for not running against him,

or

whether he thinks this is going to be a shitshow so is protecting his reputation, hoping to remain untainted so he can launch his own leadership challenge at a future point.

I think probably the latter. Streeting possibly views this as a poison chalice right now and doesn’t want to be associated with it. He’ll want a clean run for the top job in the future, no question.

placemats · 20/07/2026 19:26

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/07/2026 19:15

I know very little about Healey tbh, but this is what the BBC said - which possibly explains why he was picked (we know AB is very keen on increasing regional powers):

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Good point re devolution. Let's see how that goes.

TemperanceWest · 20/07/2026 19:27

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/07/2026 19:23

I was undecided whether Streeting had done a pact with Burnham behind the scenes in return for not running against him,

or

whether he thinks this is going to be a shitshow so is protecting his reputation, hoping to remain untainted so he can launch his own leadership challenge at a future point.

I think probably the latter. Streeting possibly views this as a poison chalice right now and doesn’t want to be associated with it. He’ll want a clean run for the top job in the future, no question.

He needs to hold on to his seat first! Can't stand the man.

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/07/2026 19:31

TemperanceWest · 20/07/2026 19:27

He needs to hold on to his seat first! Can't stand the man.

Ha! Very true. His seat is very marginal as well.

I’m not a fan of Streeting either - I think he’s a career politician who blows whichever way will bring him success.

Mind you, I think pretty much the same is true of AB but as he’s PM now I’m hoping for the best.

cardibach · 20/07/2026 19:34

I felt a bit better about Streeting after hearing his JO’B podcast long form interview, but his role in this coup has taken that away.

IntoTheRoseGarden · 20/07/2026 19:41

cardibach · 20/07/2026 18:51

That’s not what you said though. You said he was a pensioner. I know little about him as a politician - what don’t you like?

We are talking about a £1.2 trillion budget holder. It is about what he can do. Why would you mention his state pension unless you are ageist?

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/07/2026 19:41

I do wonder whether keeping Shabana Mahmood in her role is a shrewd move.

She’s certainly more conservative in her views than many in Labour and some of her new policies are quite tough. They appeal to Reform-lite type voters and were quite well-received.

It feels like an attempt to attract those on the centre/centre-right who could be persuaded to vote Labour if they “stop the boats” (I hate that phrase!)

I’m not saying I agree with her appointment but I can see his reasoning.

SummerPeonies2026 · 20/07/2026 19:43

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/07/2026 19:23

I was undecided whether Streeting had done a pact with Burnham behind the scenes in return for not running against him,

or

whether he thinks this is going to be a shitshow so is protecting his reputation, hoping to remain untainted so he can launch his own leadership challenge at a future point.

I think probably the latter. Streeting possibly views this as a poison chalice right now and doesn’t want to be associated with it. He’ll want a clean run for the top job in the future, no question.

The latter - a shit show

placemats · 20/07/2026 19:45

IntoTheRoseGarden · 20/07/2026 19:41

We are talking about a £1.2 trillion budget holder. It is about what he can do. Why would you mention his state pension unless you are ageist?

Why would anyone mention the shinning hair styles and gorgeous lovely dress?

SummerPeonies2026 · 20/07/2026 19:46

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/07/2026 19:41

I do wonder whether keeping Shabana Mahmood in her role is a shrewd move.

She’s certainly more conservative in her views than many in Labour and some of her new policies are quite tough. They appeal to Reform-lite type voters and were quite well-received.

It feels like an attempt to attract those on the centre/centre-right who could be persuaded to vote Labour if they “stop the boats” (I hate that phrase!)

I’m not saying I agree with her appointment but I can see his reasoning.

It might attract those that care about this country and its future if the Home Secretary was serious about security, thus it’s likely we are going to be very disappointed. The commitment required to stop human trafficking and ths gangs making millions is going to be well beyond Labour.

pointythings · 20/07/2026 19:47

Do I need to deploy my GIF already???

Immigration is down.

Small boat crossings are down.

SummerPeonies2026 · 20/07/2026 19:49

pointythings · 20/07/2026 19:47

Do I need to deploy my GIF already???

Immigration is down.

Small boat crossings are down.

The ones you know about are, with the statistics being massaged. Along with the NHS figures. It’s so incredibly dishonest.

Llttledrummergirl · 20/07/2026 19:50

Bloody hell, so many posts today many visitors to the thread and so much total rubbish in amongst the knowledgeable posters.

Some of these postings are unexpected, one of my concerns is continuity as the new ministers get to grips with their portfolios- they had time to transition with Starmer, now no time to get to know the departments, the people in them or the strengths and weaknesses of how they run, yet we are to expect changes in direction.

It's going to be challenging, I hope they are up to it.

DuncinToffee · 20/07/2026 19:50

There are people who have lost on the polymarkets with their Chancellor predictions.

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Saucery · 20/07/2026 19:51

SummerPeonies2026 · 20/07/2026 19:46

It might attract those that care about this country and its future if the Home Secretary was serious about security, thus it’s likely we are going to be very disappointed. The commitment required to stop human trafficking and ths gangs making millions is going to be well beyond Labour.

Who would be able to deal with it? Reform? Conservatives had their opportunity and did fuck all about it, so they aren’t an option.
And, as above, immigration and small boat crossings are already down.

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/07/2026 19:51

Staying on topic….

I see Lucy Powell has gone into number 10. Not a surprise as she’s an AB ally.

And - god help us - Bridget Phillipson. Not a fan of her either I’m afraid!

SummerPeonies2026 · 20/07/2026 19:53

Oh and a woman convicted of fraud has now made it into the cabinet. You really couldn’t make this up! Why choose Haigh? He is really scratching around. Perhaps Burnham will start recruiting cabinet ministers in open prisons in the name of woke diversity. How we have fallen!

Saucery · 20/07/2026 19:53

It must be quite tiring

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SpidersAreShitheads · 20/07/2026 19:55

Llttledrummergirl · 20/07/2026 19:50

Bloody hell, so many posts today many visitors to the thread and so much total rubbish in amongst the knowledgeable posters.

Some of these postings are unexpected, one of my concerns is continuity as the new ministers get to grips with their portfolios- they had time to transition with Starmer, now no time to get to know the departments, the people in them or the strengths and weaknesses of how they run, yet we are to expect changes in direction.

It's going to be challenging, I hope they are up to it.

I suppose they’re used to it - occupational hazard I guess?

I agree it can’t be helpful though. Much as I dislike a lot of what AB has done and how he’s done it, we really need the continuity so he has to make this work.

DuncinToffee · 20/07/2026 19:55

McFadden stays at DWP

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SpidersAreShitheads · 20/07/2026 19:56

Yvette Cooper Health Secretary

Thread 1 Burnham: Esperanza en cada Corazón
Efacsen · 20/07/2026 19:57

Yvette Cooper appointed health secretary

PickAChew · 20/07/2026 19:57

Saucery · 20/07/2026 19:53

It must be quite tiring

So much

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PickAChew · 20/07/2026 19:58

Efacsen · 20/07/2026 19:57

Yvette Cooper appointed health secretary

That will fox those who were convinced it was Rayner.

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