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Labour isn't Working - Thread 37

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NoWordForFluffy · 14/07/2026 14:37

In Nuthatch's absence, I've been asked to start the new thread!

A chat thread for those of us who don't like this Labour government.

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5548208-labour-isnt-working-thread-36?page=1

Labour isn't Working - Thread 37
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NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2026 23:12

Ellie Reeves is Attorney General.

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LupaMoonhowl · 20/07/2026 23:16

justasking111 · 20/07/2026 22:05

I was talking about construction this weekend to the owner of a building company. Construction is fooked. Can't find qualified people because they won't work for big builders because they don't get paid for months. Government are the worst payers of them all.

Totally.
Feeling so lucky that I have the last builder left that is solvent and running a serious business. His customers happily pay him top whack and VAT so that his men are properly remunerated, pensions , sick pay etc .
But he has to compete with the cowboys.
He is fifty-something.
When he retires we won’t have any more like him.

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2026 23:18

Last list from Sky.

Here's a list of the final appointments of the day:

  • Stephen Kinnock - Wales secretary
  • Sir Chris Bryant - Northern Ireland secretary
  • Ellie Reeves - Attorney general
  • Emma Reynolds - Chief secretary to the Treasury and will attend cabinet
  • Kanishka Narayan - AI minister, a joint Cabinet Office and DCMS role
  • Hamish Falconer - Europe and intergovernmental relations minister, shared across the Foreign and Cabinet Office
  • Heidi Alexander will keep her role as transport secretary
  • Douglas Alexander will keep his job as Scotland secretary
  • Sir Alan Campbell will remain leader of the Commons
  • Baroness Smith of Basildon will remain leader of the Lords
  • And Matthew Pennycook will remain as a housing minister and attend cabinet.
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justasking111 · 20/07/2026 23:41

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2026 22:55

What do we know about Miatta Fahnbulleh then? Is she as fervent and deluded as Miliband?

"Miatta Fahnbulleh (politician) - Wikipedia" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miatta_Fahnbulleh_(politician)

Unknown quantity.

Miatta Fahnbulleh (politician) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miatta_Fahnbulleh_(politician)

SapphireCasino · 20/07/2026 23:41

@justasking111 what's the deal with the big builders? Why are they not paying people for months?

CaveMum · 20/07/2026 23:44

NoWordForFluffy · 20/07/2026 22:52

Streeting got Defence!

FFS! I know it’s not a prerequisite to, you know, actually have a bit of experience in your brief but Defence is one of those things where you’d hope they’ve at least been in the shadow role if they’ve not directly served.

justasking111 · 20/07/2026 23:50

SapphireCasino · 20/07/2026 23:41

@justasking111 what's the deal with the big builders? Why are they not paying people for months?

Because it reduces your overdraft. The builders merchant, double glazing company, kitchen and bathroom suppliers etc are gifting you their products until paid for.

The sub contractors, brickies, plasterers, joiners, kitchen/bathroom fitters etc are gifting you their labour until paid.

It's a free loan in effect.

SapphireCasino · 20/07/2026 23:52

@justasking111 I had no idea
I thought that they would have to pay for supplies upfront and I suppose the terms of the sub contractors are negotiable but not that negotiable!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/07/2026 00:08

All public sector that I’ve worked for absolutely hung onto the money until they absolutely had to pay it. Frequently needed to chase it up on suppliers’ behalf with accounts.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/07/2026 00:09

Not just one role, multiple. It’s endemic.

NoWordForFluffy · 21/07/2026 06:17

CaveMum · 20/07/2026 23:44

FFS! I know it’s not a prerequisite to, you know, actually have a bit of experience in your brief but Defence is one of those things where you’d hope they’ve at least been in the shadow role if they’ve not directly served.

Given the rumour is that Burnham offered it to Reeves, I think we should be thankful for Streeting!

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Middlerage · 21/07/2026 06:27

oooh fell asleep before BP got demoted! Huzzah!!! Thank goodness, if they ditch the curriculum reforms that’ll be something…

as for her retaining a position as women and equalities well, I feel reassured what next, a t shirt a saying ‘for the women that agree with me’ or something like that?

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 21/07/2026 07:17

So Streeting got Defence after Reeves said no. That’s a snub and a half for Streeting. Once a contender so strong that Starmer had to try to nobble him, now a late substitute for Reeves in a department that Burnham doesn’t give a shit about.

RosieHosie · 21/07/2026 07:23

seriouslycanthisgetWORSE · 20/07/2026 13:22

Tomorrow I'm expecting rise in tax thresholds, vat removed from energy bills and gas drilling now.

You're right on one so far!

LupaMoonhowl · 21/07/2026 07:24

RosieHosie · 21/07/2026 07:23

You're right on one so far!

Missed this -which one?

RosieHosie · 21/07/2026 07:25

LupaMoonhowl · 21/07/2026 07:24

Missed this -which one?

VAT on energy bills.

NoWordForFluffy · 21/07/2026 07:39

RosieHosie · 21/07/2026 07:25

VAT on energy bills.

It's being reported on Sky as electricity bills only, rather than energy. So VAT remains on gas bills?

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CaveMum · 21/07/2026 07:41

BBC reporting VAT only off electricity bills too.

RosieHosie · 21/07/2026 07:42

NoWordForFluffy · 21/07/2026 07:39

It's being reported on Sky as electricity bills only, rather than energy. So VAT remains on gas bills?

Yes, sorry, I hadn't spotted that. Funded by binning digital ID, apparently.

justasking111 · 21/07/2026 07:44

Thank god digital id is in the bin.

CaveMum · 21/07/2026 07:46

Jonathan Reynolds (Business Secretary) just told BBC that the VAT cut is only funded to the end of the financial year

NoWordForFluffy · 21/07/2026 07:46

justasking111 · 21/07/2026 07:44

Thank god digital id is in the bin.

Yes, I think we can all get behind that decision!

I'm really hoping that Healey looks at reversing a load of Reeves' decisions and making more sensible ones which promote employment and growth.

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DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 21/07/2026 07:54

NoWordForFluffy · 21/07/2026 07:46

Yes, I think we can all get behind that decision!

I'm really hoping that Healey looks at reversing a load of Reeves' decisions and making more sensible ones which promote employment and growth.

One can only hope.

Rayner’s return will at least give us comedy capers along the way.

EasternStandard · 21/07/2026 07:57

justasking111 · 21/07/2026 07:44

Thank god digital id is in the bin.

Ik. Tg indeed. Hopefully more of the Starmer / Reeves damage will join it.

EasternStandard · 21/07/2026 07:58

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 21/07/2026 07:17

So Streeting got Defence after Reeves said no. That’s a snub and a half for Streeting. Once a contender so strong that Starmer had to try to nobble him, now a late substitute for Reeves in a department that Burnham doesn’t give a shit about.

I was thinking about this. Does that mean there could have been nothing for Streeting?