The King of Crazytown Can't Control The Chaos - Trump Thread #159

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“Whether you’re a military analyst or a political analyst, whether you’re in the Democratic or Republican party, there’s a reality here. Donald Trump has met the moment of truth. The kind of fictional life that he’s led and evoked over the last four or five decades has now been unmasked as a deadly drama. It’s going to cost the lives of so many people. It’s going to devastate the US economy and the regional economy. It’s going to set back America and its standing in the world. It’s a horrific moment.”
Larry Jacobs, director of the Center for the Study of Politics and Governance at the University of Minnesota.

Heaven Obi-Wan Kenobi help us. You're our only hope.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5506514-bored-of-peace-lets-mambo-trump-thread-158?page=9

White House Ballroom. Definitely will be mentioned, he must be incandescent!

That's my top guess. ✅️

Well... Biden obvs. (extra points for "Sleepy Joe")

PMK

so after the(hopefully successful) artemis launch

Yes. That poster has just quoted from a pukka document, but somehow managed to stop the cursor short so the clip pasted managed to miss out the next sentence which actually negated the point the poster was trying to insinuate

No link to the source of the quote. When challenged... "will post link later".

Bad faith debate. Dishonest really. Misrepresentation of statements made by cherry picking specific lines.

Got that :-)

I have populated it a bit so keep them coming.

@SerendipityJane I use Libreoffice for this stuff. German I believe, so I am onboard with the minimal use of US MS.

It's been a bugbear of mine that the FOSS community (who are equally as wedded to shibboleths as MS) have studiously ignored the single biggest chance to replace Windows with something that works. And that is the total failure to realise that 80% of "Windows" users really just use Office. And from them most see Outlook as part of the furniture. And Outlook is the one app that FOSS has worked very hard to ignore.

Telegraph has interviewed Trump. Nothing new to see, but linking for bingo ideas.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/e20000c19a8a77bf

I think Trump has already effectively pulled out of NATO - just hasn’t had his theatrical moment on camera doing it.

I’d disagree, at the moment at least there is still ambiguity. It’s small comfort but just might give Putin pause for thought. If Trump formally withdraws then we lose even that small thing.

At the risk of sounding like Colin-from-Portsmouth 'why, why, why are we sending KingPrinceCharles to pay obeisance to the rapist/murderous/wrecker in rhe White House? KPC needs a last minute 'too ill' note.

A pleasant distraction.

China must be celebrating. They are well on their way to being the world’s leading power and they’ve just had to sit back and watch Trump destroy America’s position.

In law, it has to be a senate decision. However it is obvious to the rest of the world that the US is no longer bound by the rule of law.

If I worked in compliance I would add that as a risk in any contract negotiations. That would bump the price up.

I find libreoffice great for what I do. Thunderbird for email. My main software is French. I am limited in what I can get/find. Github is sometimes fully blocked, always partially.

ALL: populated bingo. First draft attached. Changes eagerly accepted. Happy to do a 2nd one.

:-)

For me no sick note excuse give him the unabated truth.
His constant snipes at the UK
The derision of our armed forces particularly the Afghan war comments that our forces were far from the front line etc.

@RedTagAlan it needs something about a Moon base and something about Cuba.

TRIP an interesting listen this morning. RS out in the US teaching at Yale and was pretty shocked by the attitude a lot of those he has spoken to (students, academics, military, etc) are taking towards the war in Iran. They just don’t seem to understand the global economic implications of what is going on - gas prices have gone up a bit, but nowhere near as much as in Europe and Asia.

It seems there is a lot of “Meh, not my problem” happening, which is very disappointing.

I don't think one bingo card is big enough anymore. No room for "Barack Hussein Obama" or "Newscum". The new presidential library might also pop up.

This is exactly what I noticed during the Brexit campaigns.

Packs of dishonest posters gathering on a thread and working together to "mob" anyone who argued rationally against them or produced evidence to contradict them. The mobbers were loud and prolific – very much a case of "quantity is a "quality" (Ukraine threadsters will understand). They were also slippery when challenged. And as we said earlier, once there was too much evidence against their claims on one thread, they would just oil off and start a near identical one.

This behaviour continued long after the referendum and covered various other voting periods (inc US), then I noticed it seemed to die down a little.

I don't remember the details, but at the time I was reading stuff by various bot-watching set-ups, and it was possible to divine the priorities of the Kremlin at any given time by watching it pull bot resources off one campaign to divert to another.

Of course many more actors than Russia now run bot-farms, paid or volunteer, so it's not easy to know who might be the actor behind any particular set of co-ordinated posting.

Plan A was regime change.
Plan B was maybe not that but we’ll deplete their missiles
Plan C maybe we’ll just reopen the Strait that was open until we started plan A
Plan D is bit difficult might just leave in 2 weeks without opening it.

At this point in 2 weeks the US will be paying reparations to the regime in Iran and sanctioning themselves.

@TheVeloursImgonnaChangeNsoul yes, rhe absolute disrespect to our armed forces, both in recent and previous conflicts. KS is doing a good job (though he seems to be allowing us to be drawn in further now). We need to move closer to Europe & break all links we can to the US (certainly in its current administration but also as it is garnering a huge amount of distrust worldwide (bombing primary schools) which we do not want to be associated with.
Current thinking seems to be that KPC3 will weird 'software power' with Trump.
'weird soft power' even, tho my typo may be more appropriate?
I think that it's like an abusive relationship. Trump will take it as weakness & behave even worse towards the UK.

Iran could allow Yuan contracted oil through the strait - without a single bullet being fired. All of Europe would happily buy that and the US stranglehold on world reserves would pass.

Sub optimal, but entirely practical. Maybe sell dollars to buy yuan ?

The US benefits from cheap dollars as all oil sales are contracted in dollars so countries need to hold them in their reserves.

if everyone swapped to yuan then countries no longer need dollars, which would mean that US borrowing becomes more expensive for the US government and companies.