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SerendipityJane · 06/02/2026 18:09

A BBC version of Sir Ian McKellan performing Thomas Mores speech

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03ydmhx

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Grant them removed, and grant that this your noise
Hath chid down all the majesty of England.
Imagine that you see the wretched strangers,
Their babies at their backs, and their poor luggage,
Plodding to th’ ports and coasts for transportation,
And that you sit as kings in your desires,
Authority quite silenced by your brawl,
And you in ruff of your opinions clothed.
What had you got? I’ll tell you: you had taught
How insolence and strong hand should prevail,
How order should be quelled; and by this pattern
Not one of you should live an aged man,
For other ruffians, as their fancies wrought,
With selfsame hand, self reasons, and self right,
Would shark on you; and men like ravenous fishes
Would feed on one another.
What’s this? You would be kings in your desires?
Go to. You’ll put down strangers,
Kill them, cut their throats, possess their houses,
And lead the majesty of law in lyam
To slip him like a hound. Say now the king
(As he is clement, if th’ offender mourn,
Should so much come too short of your great trespass
As but to banish you), whither would you go?
What country, by the nature of your error,
Should give you harbor? Go you to France or Flanders,
To any German province, to Spain or Portugal,
Nay, anywhere that not adheres to England —
Why, you must needs be strangers. Would you be pleased
To find a nation of such barbarous temper
That, breaking out in hideous violence,
Would not afford you an abode on earth,
Whet their detested knives against your throats,
Spurn you like dogs, and like as if that God
Owed not nor made not you, nor that the elements
Were not all appropriate to your comforts,
But chartered unto them? What would you think
To be thus used? This is the strangers’ case;
And this your mountainish inhumanity.

BBC - Shakespeare Lives, Sir Ian McKellen performs a speech from Sir Thomas More

With a personal introduction to the play, Sir Ian gives an impassioned performance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03ydmhx

AhBiscuits · 06/02/2026 18:27

So Leavitt said about the video
"This is from an internet meme video depicting President Trump as the King of the Jungle and Democrats as characters from the Lion King," Leavitt said by text, referring to Disney's 1994 feature film. "Please stop the fake outrage and report on something today that actually matters to the American public."

But that obviously was not shutting people up. So now they are saying it was posted by a staffer in error. At 1am. Sounds legit.

Donttellempike · 06/02/2026 19:22

AhBiscuits · 06/02/2026 18:27

So Leavitt said about the video
"This is from an internet meme video depicting President Trump as the King of the Jungle and Democrats as characters from the Lion King," Leavitt said by text, referring to Disney's 1994 feature film. "Please stop the fake outrage and report on something today that actually matters to the American public."

But that obviously was not shutting people up. So now they are saying it was posted by a staffer in error. At 1am. Sounds legit.

At this point his enablers are worse.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/02/2026 19:28

YankTank · 06/02/2026 13:11

Like shoot someone on 5th Avenue? 🤔

"But me, I expected it to happen.
I knew he'd lost control
When he built a fire on Main Street
And shot it full of holes."

(Isn't it funny the way anything the Fart posts that makes people seriously angry with him always turns out to have been posted by "a staffer"?)

AhBiscuits · 06/02/2026 19:42

A junior staffer no less. So they've given some kid, fresh out of college control over the president's social media and allowed them to post throughout the night. Of course they have.
So have they been fired? Where's the apology? Why didn't Leavitt mention that earlier?

Donttellempike · 06/02/2026 19:44

AhBiscuits · 06/02/2026 19:42

A junior staffer no less. So they've given some kid, fresh out of college control over the president's social media and allowed them to post throughout the night. Of course they have.
So have they been fired? Where's the apology? Why didn't Leavitt mention that earlier?

One day Fash Barbie will have to explain her behavior to her children

AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2026 19:50

menopausalfart · 06/02/2026 18:02

He has turned the USA into the land of the free for himself and his billionaire mates. I never thought their fall into fascism would happen in my lifetime.

"The Land of the Free-if-you-are-rich" (and white)

CaveMum · 06/02/2026 19:52

AhBiscuits · 06/02/2026 19:42

A junior staffer no less. So they've given some kid, fresh out of college control over the president's social media and allowed them to post throughout the night. Of course they have.
So have they been fired? Where's the apology? Why didn't Leavitt mention that earlier?

The Pod Save America guys were speculating that the reason Trump posts in the middle of the night is probably due to his awful diet and he’s constipated on the toilet - literally shit posting.

AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2026 19:56

Donttellempike · 06/02/2026 19:44

One day Fash Barbie will have to explain her behavior to her children

And then at some point she'll have to answer to an even Higher Authority.

At least some of us believe she will. I know I'll have to stand there too. But when God is done with me I'm going to ask him "Can I just stand over here for Leavitt, Trump, and all those guys? I'm sure their answers are going to be a real hoot!"

Donttellempike · 06/02/2026 19:58

AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2026 19:56

And then at some point she'll have to answer to an even Higher Authority.

At least some of us believe she will. I know I'll have to stand there too. But when God is done with me I'm going to ask him "Can I just stand over here for Leavitt, Trump, and all those guys? I'm sure their answers are going to be a real hoot!"

Solid atheist here.

TBF I think the Trump festival of horrors supports my Stance 😵‍💫

DuncinToffee · 06/02/2026 21:07

Boos for Mr and Mrs Vance at the Olympics

CaveMum · 06/02/2026 21:11

DuncinToffee · 06/02/2026 21:07

Boos for Mr and Mrs Vance at the Olympics

Never Mind Oh Dear GIF by Harborne Web Design Ltd

Shame.

AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2026 21:48

Donttellempike · 06/02/2026 19:58

Solid atheist here.

TBF I think the Trump festival of horrors supports my Stance 😵‍💫

IDK. I kinda think it supports mine. After all, we only have to look in the Oval Office these days to prove that Satan exists. 😉

AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2026 21:50

Ehrmehgerd!!! Is that why he really wants Greenland????!!!!!!!🤣

Donttellempike · 06/02/2026 21:53

AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2026 21:48

IDK. I kinda think it supports mine. After all, we only have to look in the Oval Office these days to prove that Satan exists. 😉

Comedy Central Trump GIF by South Park

Fair enough.

Whatever gets you through 🍊

logicisall · 06/02/2026 22:02

I'm reading but not posting on the 'other' thread. However, the current Trump supporter is repeating the US claim that those killed in military strikes against small boats in the Caribbean Sea were drug traffickers.

This article from Syracuse College of Law Review explains the difference in using marine law in the lawsuit brought by the families of the two Trinidadian fishermen who were killed.

https://lawreview.syr.edu/families-file-first-lawsuit-over-trump-era-boat-strikes-that-killed-two-trinidadian-men/

Families File First Lawsuit Over Trump-Era Boat Strikes That Killed Two Trinidadian Men

https://lawreview.syr.edu/families-file-first-lawsuit-over-trump-era-boat-strikes-that-killed-two-trinidadian-men/

placemats · 06/02/2026 22:16

Maritime law is international. There are territorial seas, but no one nation owns the high sea, oceans.

AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2026 22:23

placemats · 06/02/2026 22:16

Maritime law is international. There are territorial seas, but no one nation owns the high sea, oceans.

Don't tell President 'Gulf of America' that!

placemats · 06/02/2026 23:18

AcrossthePond55 · 06/02/2026 22:23

Don't tell President 'Gulf of America' that!

It's the Gulf of Mexico and The JFK Center For Performing Arts. Always.

logicisall · 06/02/2026 23:29

In his head, it's Trump's Gulf of America, no?

AcrossthePond55 · 07/02/2026 00:14

logicisall · 06/02/2026 23:29

In his head, it's Trump's Gulf of America, no?

Oh how silly of me! I forgot the Trump part.

AcrossthePond55 · 07/02/2026 00:24

placemats · 06/02/2026 23:18

It's the Gulf of Mexico and The JFK Center For Performing Arts. Always.

I dread to think about what travesties are going to take place at the Kennedy Center during the 2 year closure. It's going to end up looking like a Gay '90s bordello mashed up with a strip club. Just like the White House.

And as I've mentioned before, it's going to be very costly to undo all the tackiness. Money that Congress (and the American taxpayer) is NOT going to want to pay. And considering the financial ruin the new Administration and Congress is going to have to deal with, I won't blame them or us.

I think names will swiftly be changed or changed back and various signs removed or painted over, plaques and pictures that have been removed will be put back in place and the egregious paintings of Scrotus removed. That won't cost too much. But the gold leafing of every possible surface, 'bordello decor', and any structural changes will be too expensive to deal with all at once.

placemats · 07/02/2026 00:35

AcrossthePond55 · 07/02/2026 00:24

I dread to think about what travesties are going to take place at the Kennedy Center during the 2 year closure. It's going to end up looking like a Gay '90s bordello mashed up with a strip club. Just like the White House.

And as I've mentioned before, it's going to be very costly to undo all the tackiness. Money that Congress (and the American taxpayer) is NOT going to want to pay. And considering the financial ruin the new Administration and Congress is going to have to deal with, I won't blame them or us.

I think names will swiftly be changed or changed back and various signs removed or painted over, plaques and pictures that have been removed will be put back in place and the egregious paintings of Scrotus removed. That won't cost too much. But the gold leafing of every possible surface, 'bordello decor', and any structural changes will be too expensive to deal with all at once.

I hope that happens. During the English Reformation period in the 16th century, theatres were closed for 18 years.

RedTagAlan · 07/02/2026 02:23

placemats · 06/02/2026 22:16

Maritime law is international. There are territorial seas, but no one nation owns the high sea, oceans.

Yup. And as the world has been telling the PRC this for decades over the South China Sea, and Trump has totally blown it. The damage Trump is doing is immeasurable.

Lalgarh · 07/02/2026 02:24

DuncinToffee · 06/02/2026 21:07

Boos for Mr and Mrs Vance at the Olympics

Commentators trying to make the best of things

https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1qxvigy/us_vp_jd_vance_getting_booed_during_2026_winter/

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