Whatever Atrocity is Next... - Trump Thread #154

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No, you are correct.

However MTG is the only MAGAnaut I know of trying to hold Trump to account.

Discovery will be interesting.

President Trump, "It looks like Wolff, a writer, was conspiring with Epstein to do harm to me"

"So we'll probably sue Wolff on that"

"And maybe the Epstein estate as well"

"Epstein was conspiring with Wolff to harm me politically"
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oh thanks. Hadn't heard that one !

Yup, David Hogg.

MTG of Jewish space laser fame.

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She also questioned if the earth was a ball. She was not quite a confirmed flat earther, but she was a gnats whisker away.

Wow they are all deluded! How offensive to.the victims and their families. It beggars belief that the MAGA supporters can believe that but not the allegations raised by multiple people in the Epstein files.

Hello, sorry for butting in, but I know you lot are well versed in everything Trump.

I have just read something about Trump and "calendar girls" that was supposedly released as part of the Epstein files, but then retracted. Is it fake or real, does anyone know? It is so disgusting and distressing.

Sorry if it has already been discussed.

You must be new to MAGA watching world.

:-)

Jesus was MAGA too of course.

Have a @PandoraSocks

Though sorry, can't help with your question. I didn't see that stuff.

The person having the most fun with the current tranche of Epstein files is Dan Neidle.
He is following the money about whose mortgages and loans and property purchases were arranged during visits to the Island.

It was taxes that did for Al Capone after all

well obviously I am v naive about them .
And s a christian I am horrified that they try to justify their actions . They must be reading a different bible from.me for sure. .Though.i would put money on them probably never having read it at all. They are happy to be brain washed it seems .

Have you only just noticed ?

If it's Christian MAGA you want, then that's Rep Lauren Boebert.

Here is a US Christian site with some of her stuff.

Boebert babbles about God, Satan and the Second Coming – Baptist News Global

Yup, she really did say that if Jesus had an AR-15 rifle, his government would not have killed him.

And, the teachings of Jesus do not apply to "illegal" migrants, because Jesus said those things only about "legal" people. Let unto Ceaser that which is Caeser's. That line, she says, means goodness only applies to taxpayers.

Google " MAGA Christianity"... and fasten your seatbelt :-)

Meanwhile, down in Texas, Mexico way ...

San Francisco i don't think this has been shared here yet.

to be honest yes. I am woefully ignorant I now realise because I am not a political animal at all. I generally ignore as much as I can but I have been so angry at what is going on ( like most people I guess) that I have gone down lots of rabbit holes and my mind has been blown by it all.
I can't believe the shitshow that is Trumps presidency and the lies and spin that seems to be accepted by his loyal followers.
Tbh it is depressing to realise how many.people can be so easily duped . And most shocking of all is how he just plough on dismantling the constitution.and abusing power whilst no one seems able to stop him.

I dont honestly think.my mental.health could take it. I have never felt so despairing of the human race as I do at present.
And as I have said I have never been a political person but I think.we all have to speak out and stand up.against it if we can . Though I am aware my paltry efforts will have no.impact at all if course.

Well, there is more joy in heaven at a sinner saved and all that.

However some of us saw this coming well over four years ago. Which goes a long way to explaining the anger some people feel, having warned of this to be told we are just whiny liberals.

Anyway, having now begun to see how bad things are, what is the plan to stop and undo it ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9e4xw8vqqo

well.to be fair I was sounding the alarm myself over trump before he was elected the first time and I did argue with Christians that he was not in any way a suitable candidate.
Once he got in I thought maybe I was the mad one and I just didn't get it so.i.stuck my head in the sand at that point.
I remember when he said he was running again thinking that there was no.way he would get in again and yet here we are.
I just dont understand how so many people voted for him though obviously I am no expert on american politics and do not understand their convoluted election process.

Don't think that just because you're only one person you don't have 'impact'. Flutter of a butterfly's wings leading to tornadoes and all that. You can unite with others, go to protests, volunteer for causes. That's what I'm doing. And it helps me feel I do have impact because I am with like-minded people doing these same things.

If nothing else learn the truth, speak that truth to others, and VOTE knowledgeably in each and every election. Especially important now in the US, but applicable the world over.

Whenever I wonder how so many people came to vote for him, I consider whether perhaps I am asking the wrong question and what I really ought to be wondering is how many of the voting machines were directly controlled by Elon Musk and his associates and underlings.

And how many will be in the mid-terms.

Treat it as fun, and it will help your mental health. It is so nuts it is beyond incredible. Then again, I am atheist ( ex-Christian), so I am probably insulated from it.

Just read the articles in Monty Python style.

MAGA is 100% "conservative" Jesus, with bells and ARs on top. They are ALL going up in the rapture, and they can't wait to get up there so they can spit down on the rest of us as we burn below.

:-)

I don't know about voting machines, but we should all be concerned with how many minds seem to be controlled by Elon Musk.

Good for you for getting re-engaged @flapjackfairy.

Again, for anyone feeling powerless, I'd urge you to listen to Scott Galloway and Kara Swisher - link below. They're quite right that money talks - the first thing to really gain traction was everyone cancelling their Disney subscriptions. Kimmel was back so fast my head was spinning.

The voting machines are fine.

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From what I’ve seen it was a real document released as part of the files but was part of a wider FBI tips document which aren’t necessarily substantiated and apparently frequently contain outlandish info about famous folk that isn’t true.