Whatever Atrocity is Next... - Trump Thread #154

[Spandauer]

I actually put this as a 'placeholder' title whilst I tried to think of a better one. But then, on reflection, copy editing didn't seem necessary.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5479042-blackmail-bluster-and-batshit-bonkers-trump-thread-153

This is on point.

@JoshLymanSwagger

They can’t see who you voted for—only the party you are affiliated with (and can make assumptions based on that).

When you register to vote, you can tick a box to register with a party. It is not like the UK system, where you pay party fees and all of the other stuff.

The reason to register with a party is to have the right to vote in that party’s primary elections. When the pool of names of presidential potentials comes forward, you have the right to vote for the final candidate whose name will be on the ballot for the presidential election.

Each state chooses how they run their primary elections. Some states only allow Republicans to vote in the Republican primary, Democrats in the Democratic primary, and Independents do not get a primary vote. However, in my state, Independents can vote in either/or Republican or Democratic primary, but CANNOT vote in both—Independents have to choose one primary election to participate in.

Is it just me or are the media being v quiet in general about the claims re Trump in the latest release of Epstein documents?
I know it has been covered but in a v muted way imo.
Why is everyone not up in arms about it ?
I know the MAGA lot will brush it off but with all the victims and witness statements against not only trump.but other high profile men why is it not a bigger story ?

I agree, particularly considering how heinous some of it is.

Yes. Completely agree. Seems to be taken as a given that they are false claims, but where’s the evidence that they were investigated?

That judge is a hero. Reading their comments gave me chills.

Now to free all the other children that are trapped in those concentration camps.

@YankTank
^They can’t see who you voted for—only the party you are affiliated with (and can make assumptions based on that).
When you register to vote, you can tick a box to register with a party. It is not like the UK system, where you pay party fees and all of the other stuff.^

^ This is the bit I didn't know. I thought it was an active choice like in the UK to become a member and pay to join a party.
I also, wrongly, assumed I really need to stop doing that that all states held primaries in the same way.

<bangs head on nearest flat surface>

Do feel free to correct me at any point in the future.

<bangs head again>

Makes you wonder why 🍊🌮 hasn't ICEd his own wife (yet).

As I understand it (could be wrong!) the disclosures that name Trump in this latest batch of files are tip offs/accusations that have been deemed 'not credible' by the FBI.

As reported:
In FBI email communications — which note some of the allegations come secondhand — various allegations are listed that involve Trump, Epstein, and others.
It should be noted that these complaints are uncorroborated tips to the FBI, and the existence of those tips does not indicate eventual credibility.

This report gives a bit more info from the FBI:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/woman-told-fbi-trump-abused-her-at-13-epstein-files-reveal/

The ones that are being reported have emails, photos, flight logs etc and other evidence to back them up so MSM feels confident/safe to report on them.

Federal elections are run by the states—it’s in the Constitution. But who knows if the Constitution is worth the paper it’s written on any more…

Isn't the FBI saying that they might not be all credible?

The DoJ statement was worded similar.

Well Scotland got the Orkneys as a dowry from Denmark ...

i'd be happy to have some form of primary in the UK. Done right, tt would help keep the headbangers at bay.

There may well be an argument that rather than switching to PR, we instead add a primary phase to elections.

I'm frankly sick of the baying of blood for Andrew while the rest get off scot free.
Every one of them needs questioning and removing from power.

I'd quite like them hung drawn and quartered as well, but will settle for justice. This releasing in blocks in insulting,who knows what they are still holding back, and who it's about.

They said some can’t be released due to being images/information about child sex abuse and death and some stuff under active investigation.
I think they need a special task force on all the stuff in there but presumably the reasons why other stuff can’t be released means the stuff that is released isn’t being actively investigated.

But it's OK to see Alex Pretti being turned into a colander on national TV ?

Well I think that probably the live ‘people’ in the images didn’t think to cover up like ICE agents - who maybe were taught just this lesson in their ltd training - so we might recognise them.
I don’t understand why people/leaders/media don’t seem more bothered - unless it’s AMW, who was already under the bus. I also guess Charles and William had some heads up on it to try scrabble AMW further under the carpet fast.
I have no words for all this really - nothing conveys the absolute horror of this and of ICE and of all of it - so much of it too, too much mad, abhorrent stuff - it’s hard to grasp and hard to know there’s next to nothing we can do to improve anything.

ah just see. Makes you feel sick.to think all these powerful people have just got away scot free.

I remember seeing a TV interview once, I think it was a Sherrif, who said if TV crews were to film the immediate aftermath of a school shooting and broadcast it uncensored, then there would be new gun laws within weeks.

Depends how good those crisis actors are, doesn't it?

Sorry but what does that mean ?

As best I recall, the conspiracy theorists/Alex Jones set have claimed that school shootings, like Sandy Hook, weren't real, but staged by the Obama government as a way of dismantling gun rights.

The Sandy Hook parents won a £1billion defamation case against Jones, although I don't know if he's paid out yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting_conspiracy_theories

Some good news?

MAGA in general tend not to believe school shootings are real. That they are faked by the dems, and they use "crisis actors" to play the parts for the lefty liberal news.

Cos the left want their guns.

Look up Alex Jones. And even some members of congress. Marjory Taylor Green, who has recently just left congress, was of the opinion that school shootings were faked. " False flags" is the term they use.

Wasn't MTG the one who followed a survivor of a school shooting around in the streets heckling at him? Or was that some other Acolyte of Trump?