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Labour isn't working - Thread 23

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TheNuthatch · 03/12/2025 14:58

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Prometheus78 · 15/12/2025 18:37

The NHS is clearly obsolete, and not fit for purpose.

Literally putting all your healthcare eggs in one basket. The Europeans have it right on healthcare: hybrid payer model with private providers. Let competing hospitals fight for staff, and if one set of employees want to go on strike it will only affect a small subset of healthcare providers.

Instead, the UK experiments with a (state owned) monopoly model that produces entirely predictable outcomes.

Enough.

Legolava · 15/12/2025 18:38

Prometheus78 · 15/12/2025 18:34

It’s seriously creepy.

Even worse if they are storing posts as some kind of database and they are inaccurate. How on earth does one think they know someone so well on the internet (that they’ve never engaged with) that they know their family. Seriously creepy behaviour doesn’t cut it!

Upstartled · 15/12/2025 18:42

Legolava · 15/12/2025 18:38

Even worse if they are storing posts as some kind of database and they are inaccurate. How on earth does one think they know someone so well on the internet (that they’ve never engaged with) that they know their family. Seriously creepy behaviour doesn’t cut it!

Yes, I wonder if there's a garage with our names somewhere with walls covered in our previous posts, wall pins and string? 🚨🚨🚨

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Legolava · 15/12/2025 18:43

Upstartled · 15/12/2025 18:42

Yes, I wonder if there's a garage with our names somewhere with walls covered in our previous posts, wall pins and string? 🚨🚨🚨

I was going to laugh but then…there are some really creepy and quite vindictive lurkers in these parts. You never know! 🚩🚩🚩🚩

Upstartled · 15/12/2025 18:46

Starmer ‘aware farmers are considering suicide over IHT raid’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/12/15/keir-starmer-liaison-committee-mps-immigration-defence/

Anyone who actually watched this saw his callously dismissive tone in full technicolour. It was chilling

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Upstartled · 15/12/2025 18:47

I'll just try that again, it should have included a shared token

Starmer ‘aware farmers are considering suicide over IHT raid’

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/12/15/keir-starmer-liaison-committee-mps-immigration-defence/

Upstartled · 15/12/2025 18:59

Legolava · 15/12/2025 18:43

I was going to laugh but then…there are some really creepy and quite vindictive lurkers in these parts. You never know! 🚩🚩🚩🚩

Err, did I mention my, killer Doberman in my other posts? 🤔🤣

Legolava · 15/12/2025 19:02

Upstartled · 15/12/2025 18:59

Err, did I mention my, killer Doberman in my other posts? 🤔🤣

🤣

SpaceRaccoon · 15/12/2025 19:06

Fauchon · 15/12/2025 18:13

Would you like me to reference your previous post? You absolutely did.

Creepy.

whataguddle · 15/12/2025 20:35

The doctor's strikes are absolutely shameful!

They had a big pay rise and now want more…it must be some hard core militants in charge pushing this…time to stop!!

hamstersarse · 15/12/2025 20:41

Upstartled · 15/12/2025 18:46

Starmer ‘aware farmers are considering suicide over IHT raid’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/12/15/keir-starmer-liaison-committee-mps-immigration-defence/

Anyone who actually watched this saw his callously dismissive tone in full technicolour. It was chilling

I am a farmer, small one, and I only caught a a clip of this.

He makes me sick, he doesn’t even have the balls to say exactly why he’s doing it. I might have some respect for him if he would articulate a sound reason for it.

The conclusion I’ve come to when listening to lefties who support this tax is they are so deranged that they seem to view farms as some sort of big garden, and big gardens are a status symbol - landed gentry etc - and we all know what they think of something that might indicate a status; take it off them.

whataguddle · 15/12/2025 20:46

Yes it was chilling he was told that farmers were considering suicide.

He was stone cold and nasty he has no answers nor an ounce of empathy …most disliked PM in living memory.

A pathetic excuse of a person.

redange · 15/12/2025 20:54

There, is a group of posters who collect and store posts from people and use them as dossier to discredit what people post and their opinions. For instance sometimes, I may state a different 'location' to where I may live or might change specific numbers or details. This, obviously is for 'protection' and to keep anonymity. Some, posters will drag up you said you lived in 'Yorkshire' now you have posted you live in Devon. They are able to drag up this information, due to a 'desire' to hurt people !

redange · 15/12/2025 20:59

The reasoning in Starmers World for the IHT tax raid on Farmers, is that nobody should have 'land' that is not productive towards the State and in his mind only beneficial to the farming community. What he is clearly unable to grasp is that if nobody is producing food, the whole of the Country will suffer, unless he wants some kind of 'synthetic' food from China for the masses to eat.

After all should you expect anything different from a totalitarian Marxist.

whataguddle · 15/12/2025 21:01

That is exactly what he is a totalitarian Marxist!

hamstersarse · 15/12/2025 21:08

I’m relatively new to farming and another thing they fail to account for is the absolute value of experience.

It took us a good few years to get our land productive, and we are still on the case now. We are absolute rookies compared to the generational farmers in the area - we lap up every bit of advice from them.

The idea someone can just walk into a farm and make it productive is for the birds, it takes years to know every nook and cranny of your land, ten versions of all the four seasons to know all the issues that might occur….i could go on…but in the meantime, food production will be impacted

Its deranged

TheNuthatch · 15/12/2025 21:22

redange · 15/12/2025 20:54

There, is a group of posters who collect and store posts from people and use them as dossier to discredit what people post and their opinions. For instance sometimes, I may state a different 'location' to where I may live or might change specific numbers or details. This, obviously is for 'protection' and to keep anonymity. Some, posters will drag up you said you lived in 'Yorkshire' now you have posted you live in Devon. They are able to drag up this information, due to a 'desire' to hurt people !

This isn't my first stalking incident, it won't be the last. This particular weirdo would make a shit detective, thats for sure.

One of my dc is indeed a doctor. If anyone desperately needs more detailed information about my dc, or my personal life, for some twisted, unhinged reason, they can ask via PM. I won't be discussing it on MN with my latest superfan.

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redange · 15/12/2025 21:23

Its as if all the Labour Cabinet Ministers are Pantomime Villains in everything they propose or do. Is it possible they could actually come up with a proposal that does not have all us 'shouting' as if we were at a 'Pantomime' .

EasternStandard · 15/12/2025 21:26

TheNuthatch · 15/12/2025 21:22

This isn't my first stalking incident, it won't be the last. This particular weirdo would make a shit detective, thats for sure.

One of my dc is indeed a doctor. If anyone desperately needs more detailed information about my dc, or my personal life, for some twisted, unhinged reason, they can ask via PM. I won't be discussing it on MN with my latest superfan.

Horrible stuff. People get too fixated just because not everyone loves Labour. Nonsense and way too invested. I can think of a few.

EasternStandard · 15/12/2025 21:28

redange · 15/12/2025 21:23

Its as if all the Labour Cabinet Ministers are Pantomime Villains in everything they propose or do. Is it possible they could actually come up with a proposal that does not have all us 'shouting' as if we were at a 'Pantomime' .

So true. Nasty aren’t they.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 15/12/2025 23:12

Isn’t it weird how not a single bit of evidence has emerged about Tory corruption over Covid PPE contracts? You could almost think that all the accusations were appalling lies put about by Labour and its outriders, couldn’t you?

Surely not. 🫤

Prometheus78 · 16/12/2025 06:43

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 15/12/2025 23:12

Isn’t it weird how not a single bit of evidence has emerged about Tory corruption over Covid PPE contracts? You could almost think that all the accusations were appalling lies put about by Labour and its outriders, couldn’t you?

Surely not. 🫤

Sunak presents as a decent person - a man of honour.

Compare and contrast with Starmer.

NoWordForFluffy · 16/12/2025 07:15

Prometheus78 · 16/12/2025 06:43

Sunak presents as a decent person - a man of honour.

Compare and contrast with Starmer.

Ironic that the trustworthy one was a banker and the untrustworthy one a barrister! The world is upside down.

Christmaschristingle · 16/12/2025 07:23

Rolls Royce is thinking of moving production of a 1.6 trillion pounds project to Europe possibly Germany becusee they can't manufacture here with eds net zero policy.

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