Labour isn't working - Thread 23

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Unemployment is up again…what an amazing job.

Kemi posted about environmental laws affecting business the other day. She really does have her finger on the pulse, and she's starting to get through and gain traction. If I was an MP / party member, I'd be very pleased with her progress.

And impacting young people more. Well done Labour and co.

So bad. When Labour took office, unemployment was at 4.1%. Today its 5.1% and Pat McFadden is blaming their inheritance. This is on Labour.

Awful news about Rolls Royce also @Christmaschristingle . So much for "growth".

5.1%?

OK, but what's the real rate of worklessness, including all those who have given up looking for work, and the perpetual students, and those with a litany of physical and mental issues that there is supposedly not even one job they can do, and those that never even bothered to try, in addition to the "benefits + petty crime for life" masses...?

Meanwhile, please don’t ‘mansplain’ to our Chancellor how raising employer NI and other pro-benefits measures will lead to a rise in unemployment. This is clearly all the fault of the conservatives, COVID, Trump and other global factors….

Edit: And when Bailey cuts on Thursday, watch Reeves try to take credit for it (again)…

McFadden laying blame for higher unemployment on Labour’s ‘inheritance’ is, depending on your point of view, either insultingly stupid or comedy gold.

He really is taking the public for fools if he thinks we can’t see that this has been caused by Labour policies, most obviously Reeves’s budgets.

Wtf with inheritance still being rolled out for this.

Maybe they’ve all given up.

USA tech trade deal called by starmer a step change worth billions has been put on ice by America due to a lack of movement on trade barriers.

Workers face paying tax on income they have not earned yet under plans announced in the Budget.

Last month the Government revealed a significant change to income tax that went largely unnoticed.

From April 2029, employees with side hustles will be required to pay tax on their self-employment earnings throughout the year via their PAYE tax code, according to documents published alongside the Budget.

But some accountants have said the change is “unfair” on workers with a fluctuating income, who could be hit with cash flow issues.

Mike Warburton, a former tax director with the accountants Grant Thornton, now a tax columnist at The Telegraph, said: “You might make all your money over Christmas but get asked to pay tax throughout the whole year. So it’s a tax on income you haven’t earned yet, which is fundamentally unfair.”

He continued: “This is another idea dreamt up by people sitting in Whitehall to try to get more cash in sooner, without thinking through the implications for taxpayers.”

They'll still be blaming their trail of bedlam and destruction on their "inheritance" when they're finally removed from office.

Britain’s benefits crisis is getting worse and the UK is throwing away the futures of almost one million young people, Labour’s worklessness tsar has warned.

Alan Milburn, the former health secretary, said there was “a whole systems failure” in Britain’s welfare state as the number of young people not in employment, education or training – or Neet – edges closer to one million.

Mr Milburn, who was Sir Tony Blair’s health secretary between 1999 and 2003, made the comments as he launched an investigation into spiralling youth unemployment.

In total, 946,000 young people aged 16 to 24 were classed as Neet during the three months to September, a jump of 140,000 compared to the same period in 2019 – before the Covid pandemic hit.

This will hit me (again). Marvellous.
I'd rather stop selling, whats the point anymore. 🤷‍♂️

Its all good because they've also announced a tiny trade deal worth a whopping [sarcasm] £400M with South Korea.
Nothing to see here. Oh look, a squirrel.

Sorry…

It’s never ending with this pettifogger, and his incompetent sidekick.

I'm not even surprised anymore, how bad is that.

Pettifogger is 👌👌👌😂

YouGov - Who would people prefer to lead instead of Starmer?

Andy Burnham +8
Wes Streeting -5
Shabana Mahmood -11
Ed Miliband -16
Angela Rayner -23

DH and I occasionally sell personal items on eBay using an account in my name. DH sold five personal items this year with a cumulative value of just under £2k; I received a message asking for my NI number under threat of the account being restricted if I didn't provide it. I'm not worried about the tax aspect because it doesn't affect me/us; it's just the 'Big Brother' feeling that makes me uncomfortable.

(In other news, I see MN's been playing with its crayons again and OP posts have reverted to that awful pastel blue.)

And having just posted I see my posts are now in ghastly pink.

@TheNuthatch thanks for the 💐 you offered round yesterday

I haven't caught up with the thread

Some of you might remember, I have had friends killed in a terror attack and I found Sunday very difficult. Not that it's about me obviously. But I wasn't on here (Or online) so I don't really know what's happening in other news

Anyway, I just thought I'd say hello. I like this thread, but I probably shouldn't be internetting right now. So just a quick hello and hope everyone's okay.

@EmeraldRoulettesending love and

I’m surprised that Wes Streeting wasn’t the public’s top choice. Burnham seems a little flaky to me.

So sorry Emerald. Take care

Yes I was surprised too.
Burnham is the only one who beat Starmer with the public. I suppose he is less tainted as not in cabinet.

This week's YouGov

Reform - 28 (+1)
Labour - 18 (-1)
Cons - 17 (-1)
Green - 17 (+2)
Lib Dem - 14 (-)

The Greens now making noises about an informal pact with Labour to keep Reform out.

Labour still 3rd in Scotland.

Proportion of previous Labour voters switching to Reform up to 13% (up from approx 7% in summer).

Does anyone really believe this is down to ‘Tory inheritance’ and not awful labour actions in the last year? I suppose there are people who only
listen to Labour sound bites.

this is a good article - hidden story here of private sector pay rise weakness - wage stats were propped up by public sector rises.

UK unemployment rate rises to 5.1%

www.thetimes.com/article/ab09a833-8a62-44e7-8710-404855145e22?shareToken=1d227ed59795c407fb1578f3a7c5fc56