Labour isn't working - Thread 14

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Previous thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5427475-labour-isnt-working-thread-13?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

I probably have the same experience, too much of the same, tg for this thread.

Yep, it's still all the fault of right wing press + bad "comms"

FFS are these people genuinely this thick and lacking in common sense? Sorry rhetorical Q as they support Labour still and make batshit statements.

@TheNuthatch that is so sweet of you to say
I actually meant to put a smiley face after commenting that no one was here last night! Yesterday was a particularly rant inducing day.

I'm hoping to be here less today and actually do something constructive...😂

Today was a classic example of just how out of touch Starmer is. We currently have a sexual predator roaming the streets, instead of being imprisoned and deported.
What did Starmer choose to do? Use his speech to attack the tories for wanting to deport people. Did he expect the public to agree with him, today of all days?

Hi folks - just a reminder that while there’s no rule against talking about a poster rather than to them, please keep things civil. It can come across as unfair if someone’s being discussed in a way they can’t easily respond to. Thanks.

Lucy "champagne socialist" Powells declared donations (they are all on the take irrespective of party):

Much of the donations and funding that Lucy has received over the years remains elusive. However, the following donations and perks have been disclosed:

£5,000 from the Trevor Chinn funded/Morgan McSweeney run consortium @LabourTogether

£9,500 from @Opal_RealEstate

£2,320 in hospitality and tickets from @Google for the @BRITAwards 🎸

£1,988 in tickets and hospitality from @CricketAus for an Ashes match at Lords. 🏏

£333.60 in tickets from @Channel4 for a rugby super league match. 🏉

£1,047 in tickets and hospitality from the @EFL for the Carabao Cup Final. ⚽️

£1,600 in tickets and hospitality from @global Radio to attend Capital’s Summertime Ball. 🌞🍹

£2,600 in tickets and hospitality from @PRSforMusic for the Glastonbury Festival. 🎸

£582 in tickets and hospitality from @bpi_music to attend the Mercury Music Prize. 🎸

£990 in tickets and hospitality from Camelot to attend the Rugby League World Cup Final. 🏉

£3,432 in tickets and hospitality from @PinewoodStudios to attend the BAFTAs 🎭

£1,150 in tickets and hospitality from @Google to attend the @BRITAwards 🎸

£2,741. 42 from @unitetheunion

£1,303.40 in tickets and hospitality from @ITV for the National Television awards. 📺

£3,440 in tickets and hospitality from @Channel4 for the @BAFTA awards. 🎭

£6,088 in tickets and hospitality from @SilverstoneUK for the British Grand Prix. 🏎️

£1,050 from the @the_LTA for @Wimbledon tickets. 🎾

£1,360 in tickets and hospitality from Manchester City FC. ⚽️

£595 in tickets and hospitality from the @IvorsAcademy for The Ivor Novello Awards. 🎶

£900 in tickets and hospitality from the @premierleague for a match. ⚽️

£1,100 in tickets and hospitality from @englandcricket for a match at Lords. 🏏

£600 in tickets and hospitality from the Football Association for the FA Cup Seni-Final. ⚽️

£3,477.60 in tickets and hospitality from @TheJockeyClub for the Grand National at Aintree. 🐴

£402 in tickets and hospitality from @SOLTnews for The Olivier Awards. 🎭

£694 in tickets and hospitality from @the_LTA for Davis Cup matches. 🎾

£470 in tickets and hospitality from @SkyBet for the Carabao Cup Final. ⚽️

£340 in tickets and hospitality from the @WPBSAofficial for the snooker World Championships. 🤵

With her £166,358 salary, expenses (£42,410.65+ claimed in the last year), generous donations, shareholdings, rental income, allowances, freebies and perks, Lucy is doing very nicely indeed at Westminster.

£3,477.60 in tickets and hospitality from @TheJockeyClub for the Grand National at Aintree. 🐴

Knowing how much The JC like to charge for stuff that won’t have amounted to a whole lot 🤣

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I don’t mind if Labour blame comms and the media. I mean I agree it’s a poor excuse and incorrect, it also means they don’t change much and will be out at the next GE.

It stinks.

Every member of the Labour Party gets a single vote in the leadership election. Affiliated supporters who are not full party members can also vote in the election and their votes count with the same weight as full party members.

Hence Ed Milliband won the leadership contest when he stabbed his brother in the back. He’d totally courted the unions and promised the world (or loads of extra cash in their grubby mitts). Shame really cos Dave M would’ve been a decent leader, possibly beaten Cameron and Brexit wouldn’t have happened. Still c’est la vie with Labour nastiness. Prepared to fuck over your own flesh and blood.

That was a disgraceful move by Ed. His brother was the better politician by miles and he knew it. Toxic little oik

Yes the other Miliband probably would have won.

Excellent description..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/8a12ebabd6f23480

Didn't take long, did it? 🤣

I was right. The Deputy leadership is run by an alternative vote. These are drawn up as 1/3rd MP's and MEP's, 1/3rd individual Labour party Members and 1/3rd to all affiliated organisations incuding socialist societies and trade unions. So there is the 900,000 odd voting pool.
The 300,000 odd actual members of the Labour party as we mentioned earlier is correct.
So, this begs the question, who's the brave soul who would like to inform the🐱 thread they really do need to do their research🤣🤣🤣

Blimey! She's really handed him his tatties.🤣🤣
Acouple of things to look at. Other than removing the whip, how the hell can he shut her up? and it's going to get worse for us all if as she professes, she speaks for the voiceless and backbenchers. It's also going to destabilise the government with all this in fighting. It's just a mess.

Good, good. Disharmony and do the opposite to what the public want, that’ll get them booted.

More worryingly though, at least if the GE were soon, it’d get reform in. They really are as thick as shit prince harry. Why would they encourage a far right gvt. Everything they are doing leads to reform. Why can’t they see that.

They really are imbeciles.

Just a reminder we are being monitored

It’s only women and girls at danger, anyway.

‘He says Kebatu must have been outside the prison for roughly "an hour and a half," before he finally left, adding, "They [the officers] were basically sending him away, saying, 'Go, you've been released, you go.'

Sim describes Kebatu as being "very confused," saying, "He kept scratching his head and saying, 'Where do I go, where do I go?'

https://news.sky.com/story/kebatu-manhunt-latest-epping-asylum-hotel-sex-offender-accidently-freed-leaving-deputy-pm-furious-13456681

This is shocking. Just watched the video in your link. He didn't exactly do a runner did he!

Gosh she despises Starmer

Please can we refrain from talking about the other thread and it's posters? I don't want to see this thread deleted because of it. Let's not stoop to their level and TAAT.

I know that the other thread talk about this one a lot, even mentioning some of us by name. Best for us to just report it when we see it.

Remember, it's best not to wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it. 😙💙

If the absconder wasn't a sex offender I'd almost feel sorry for him.