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The Orange Man and the State of his Union - Trump thread #139

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Spandauer · 04/03/2025 08:12

Thanks to @JoshLymanSwagger for the thread title.

Trump, Vance and Musk are building a bigly bridge across the Bering Strait...
...and creating a gaping chasm in the Atlantic.

Kind hearts are more than coronets, and simple faith than Norman blood.
Alfred Lord Tennyson

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/chat/5275361-an-unholy-trinity-or-just-a-seedy-threesome-trump-musk-and-putin-trump-thread-138

An unholy trinity or just a seedy threesome: Trump, Musk and Putin? - Trump thread #138 | Mumsnet

With a side order of Vance, Zuckerberg and Netanyahu.* (*Other flavours are available) ^Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invin...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5275361-an-unholy-trinity-or-just-a-seedy-threesome-trump-musk-and-putin-trump-thread-138

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Spandauer · 15/03/2025 22:19

Seen a few mentions about this today.
Literally don't know what to think anymore.

Elon Reportedly Orders Government to Stop Feeding the Bomb-Sniffing Dogs.
"Vet visits, kenneling, dog food" are "put on hold."
futurism.com/musk-tsa-dogs

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Dariendreamer · 15/03/2025 22:27

Spandauer · 15/03/2025 19:15

This is the list from NYT.
Does say list is still a work in progress though.

The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive internal deliberations, cautioned that the list had been developed by the State Department several weeks ago, and that changes were likely by the time it reached the White House.

Surprised South Africa isn’t on that list

Llttledrummergirl · 15/03/2025 22:32

I've seen South Africa on one of the lists.

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Llttledrummergirl · 15/03/2025 22:33

Spandauer · 15/03/2025 22:19

Seen a few mentions about this today.
Literally don't know what to think anymore.

Elon Reportedly Orders Government to Stop Feeding the Bomb-Sniffing Dogs.
"Vet visits, kenneling, dog food" are "put on hold."
futurism.com/musk-tsa-dogs

I really hope this isn't true. I can understand Musk not being keen on drugs dogs, but even so, this is sad.

Spandauer · 15/03/2025 22:59

DuncinToffee · 15/03/2025 21:08

WASHINGTON (AP) - Trump invokes Alien Enemies Act of 1798, assuming wartime authority to speed up mass deportations.

BREAKING: Judge Boasberg is GRANTING the temporary restraining order against the Trump administration in the Alien Enemies Act case.

Says any deportation planes already in the air must return to the US.

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PickAChew · 15/03/2025 23:05

Spandauer · 15/03/2025 22:19

Seen a few mentions about this today.
Literally don't know what to think anymore.

Elon Reportedly Orders Government to Stop Feeding the Bomb-Sniffing Dogs.
"Vet visits, kenneling, dog food" are "put on hold."
futurism.com/musk-tsa-dogs

How the hell would they find hidden fentanyl?

BlackeyedSusan · 16/03/2025 01:44

So the chaos is brewing nicely...
Prices rising
The normal government workings abandoned
Opposition afraid of retribution/ineffective
Outside enemies: Canada, EU, Mexico
Immigrants being rounded up and blamed.
Protesters arrested and deported
Those who opposed Trump on a list for retribution.
Government information no longer secure.
Talk of judges being unconstitutional

Waiting for:

protests to turn violent and be cracked down on far too heavily.

And/or

An "immigrant" "attacking" the White house/government building/President Vapor Musk resulting in martial law (not in name but in effect)

Plus the banning of judges holding Trump to account as unconstitutional.

Not allowing deportees to take American money out of America. Nor allowing emigrants to take money out of the US either.

BlackeyedSusan · 16/03/2025 01:49

Those involved in prosecuting him are likely to be high up on the list of candidates for getting blamed for civil unrest/attacks on him/government.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 16/03/2025 06:32

DuncinToffee · 15/03/2025 21:08

WASHINGTON (AP) - Trump invokes Alien Enemies Act of 1798, assuming wartime authority to speed up mass deportations.

WTAF? I despair. This is so not normal.

Coffeetwosugars · 16/03/2025 08:24

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 16/03/2025 06:32

WTAF? I despair. This is so not normal.

But who's gonna stand up to him?

SerendipityJane · 16/03/2025 09:27

I hope political activists all around the world are planning on using the US as a great motivator for folks to get out and vote.

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2025 10:05

Vance really hates Europe

https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social/post/3lkgdmdm65c2k

"Europe is on the brink of civilizational suicide," US Vice President Vance told Fox News. "Countries don’t control borders, restrict free speech. If Germany takes in millions more incompatible migrants, it’ll destroy itself. America can’t save it."

SerendipityJane · 16/03/2025 10:16

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2025 10:05

Vance really hates Europe

https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social/post/3lkgdmdm65c2k

"Europe is on the brink of civilizational suicide," US Vice President Vance told Fox News. "Countries don’t control borders, restrict free speech. If Germany takes in millions more incompatible migrants, it’ll destroy itself. America can’t save it."

With a couch psychiatrists hat on, I would say that is seems Vance is afraid of Europe. That's the sort of language you use when you fear an opponent.

Europe should take note - we scare MAGA. Not disgust. Not inflame. Not infuritare.

We scare them.

Just leaving that there. Because if we can find out why, we can do a lot more of it.

I would note that it's curious what is scaring Vance would be completely enclosed in a Venn diagram of what scares Putin.

cakeorwine · 16/03/2025 10:31

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2025 10:05

Vance really hates Europe

https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social/post/3lkgdmdm65c2k

"Europe is on the brink of civilizational suicide," US Vice President Vance told Fox News. "Countries don’t control borders, restrict free speech. If Germany takes in millions more incompatible migrants, it’ll destroy itself. America can’t save it."

Has anyone asked him about free speech in the USA and the threats from Trump to deport people who use free speech to express their feelings.?

SerendipityJane · 16/03/2025 10:43

cakeorwine · 16/03/2025 10:31

Has anyone asked him about free speech in the USA and the threats from Trump to deport people who use free speech to express their feelings.?

Waste of time. He's not interested and neither are his acolytes.

Much better to use our freedom of expression to talk openly about what a bellend he is, and to carry on pounding Musk into the ground with poster after poster. They can always put up their own. If they dare.

cakeorwine · 16/03/2025 10:45

SerendipityJane · 16/03/2025 10:43

Waste of time. He's not interested and neither are his acolytes.

Much better to use our freedom of expression to talk openly about what a bellend he is, and to carry on pounding Musk into the ground with poster after poster. They can always put up their own. If they dare.

How does a brain do that?
Freedom of speech is important unless we don't agree with it
Boycotts are bad unless we are the ones boycotting it.

user9876543211 · 16/03/2025 10:47

cakeorwine · 16/03/2025 10:45

How does a brain do that?
Freedom of speech is important unless we don't agree with it
Boycotts are bad unless we are the ones boycotting it.

I think George Orwell wrote a how-to guide. Oh, wait, it was a cautionary tale?

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2025 10:50

Vance's freedom of speech is saying whatever he wants about his wife and she just has to smile about it

Llttledrummergirl · 16/03/2025 11:03

BlackeyedSusan · 16/03/2025 01:44

So the chaos is brewing nicely...
Prices rising
The normal government workings abandoned
Opposition afraid of retribution/ineffective
Outside enemies: Canada, EU, Mexico
Immigrants being rounded up and blamed.
Protesters arrested and deported
Those who opposed Trump on a list for retribution.
Government information no longer secure.
Talk of judges being unconstitutional

Waiting for:

protests to turn violent and be cracked down on far too heavily.

And/or

An "immigrant" "attacking" the White house/government building/President Vapor Musk resulting in martial law (not in name but in effect)

Plus the banning of judges holding Trump to account as unconstitutional.

Not allowing deportees to take American money out of America. Nor allowing emigrants to take money out of the US either.

MAGA have been vilifying and undermining the judiciary for years. They claim that lawyers twist words, change language and misadvise clients so that people plead guilty when they've done nothing wrong. We saw it in the UK after the riots, people not getting a trial (they plead guilty so no need) and receiving prison sentences. Then the claim of higher sentences for rioters and 2 tier Kier.

MAGAs don't trust the legal system and will stand ready to defend the God Trump against them. Lefty lawyers is just the tip of the iceberg.

ProfessorLayton1 · 16/03/2025 11:20

What does he do apart from giving interviews on Fox News ?

Lalgarh · 16/03/2025 11:24

SerendipityJane · 16/03/2025 10:16

With a couch psychiatrists hat on, I would say that is seems Vance is afraid of Europe. That's the sort of language you use when you fear an opponent.

Europe should take note - we scare MAGA. Not disgust. Not inflame. Not infuritare.

We scare them.

Just leaving that there. Because if we can find out why, we can do a lot more of it.

I would note that it's curious what is scaring Vance would be completely enclosed in a Venn diagram of what scares Putin.

With a couch psychiatrists hat on, I would say that is seems Vance is afraid of Europe

I'd give that couch a thorough cleaning if Vance has been anywhere near it @SerendipityJane 😱

Trump and especially Bannon has long hated the EU and Europe for the liberal outlook that was predominant post ww2 ( and that's a massive fckin clue as to why that happened incidentally). This Daily Show in the aftermath of the Zelensky ambush detailed it from about 14min in ().

A chum of Vance was saying the Trumpists love Vlad BC he's defending the white race and Christianity. Russia has also been wooing conservative farming volk folk from the US Bible belt to set up in Russia to boost its white population. Likewise white Afrikaans farmers in south Africa BC they are shit scared of encroachment from China and the darker people of the Stans nations

SerendipityJane · 16/03/2025 12:15

Lalgarh · 16/03/2025 11:24

With a couch psychiatrists hat on, I would say that is seems Vance is afraid of Europe

I'd give that couch a thorough cleaning if Vance has been anywhere near it @SerendipityJane 😱

Trump and especially Bannon has long hated the EU and Europe for the liberal outlook that was predominant post ww2 ( and that's a massive fckin clue as to why that happened incidentally). This Daily Show in the aftermath of the Zelensky ambush detailed it from about 14min in ().

A chum of Vance was saying the Trumpists love Vlad BC he's defending the white race and Christianity. Russia has also been wooing conservative farming volk folk from the US Bible belt to set up in Russia to boost its white population. Likewise white Afrikaans farmers in south Africa BC they are shit scared of encroachment from China and the darker people of the Stans nations

All very dark ages.

Mrsbloggz · 16/03/2025 13:03

protests to turn violent and be cracked down on far too heavily
@BlackeyedSusan
Tiananmen Square ➡️ incoming ☹️

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