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The Orange Man and the State of his Union - Trump thread #139

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Spandauer · 04/03/2025 08:12

Thanks to @JoshLymanSwagger for the thread title.

Trump, Vance and Musk are building a bigly bridge across the Bering Strait...
...and creating a gaping chasm in the Atlantic.

Kind hearts are more than coronets, and simple faith than Norman blood.
Alfred Lord Tennyson

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An unholy trinity or just a seedy threesome: Trump, Musk and Putin? - Trump thread #138 | Mumsnet

With a side order of Vance, Zuckerberg and Netanyahu.* (*Other flavours are available) ^Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invin...

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Spandauer · 18/03/2025 16:36

Oh soz! Cross post 😁

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DuncinToffee · 18/03/2025 16:36

Spandauer · 18/03/2025 16:36

Oh soz! Cross post 😁

Again 😂

Spandauer · 18/03/2025 16:40

Also from NYT:
There are some updates in an immigration case that has drawn much attention from President Trump: The Justice Department has complied — but only in part — with an order issued Monday by a federal judge demanding more information by noon today about when flights of suspected Venezuelan gang members took off from the United States to El Salvador and whether the timing of the flights violated a ruling he had issued stopping them.

In a brief filing, department lawyers asserted, as they already have in court, that no deportation flights left the United States after a written order by the judge, James E. Boasberg, was formally placed on the docket at 7:25 p.m. on Saturday.
But the lawyers refused again to tell Judge Boasberg precisely when the two flights took off, leaving unanswered the question of whether they left after he issued an oral ruling from the bench at about 6:45 p.m. that day seeking to stop them.

The department lawyers said that providing such details would be “inappropriate” because they say the administration did not violate the order. At the same time, however, the lawyer said they could provide more information in a private setting.
This leaves Judge Boasberg with a decision to make. He could simply take the government’s word that they did not willfully violate his order to stop the flights, or he could press forward by asking for more specific information and determine for himself if his order was broken.

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SerendipityJane · 18/03/2025 17:34

Spandauer · 18/03/2025 16:35

Just now from NYT:
Chief Justice John G. Roberts rebuked President Trump in a rare public statement after the president called for a judge’s impeachment on Monday. “Impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision,” Justice Roberts wrote, hours after Mr. Trump called the judge a “Radical Left Lunatic” in a social media post and said he should be removed from the bench. The judge, James E. Boasberg, had ordered the administration to provide more information by noon as he investigates whether the White House violated his order in sending more than 200 migrants to El Salvador.

Given that he seems one of the more GOP friendly justices, this is an interesting intervention.

Whether it is too little too late remains to be seen.

Spandauer · 18/03/2025 17:38

Here is the White House readout of the call between President Trump and President Putin.

The call lasted for over two hours.
bsky.app/profile/yasharali.bsky.social/post/3lko73dwltc2h

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Spandauer · 18/03/2025 17:42

New thread here for when we need it.
(Which I'm assuming we will)

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5297058-trumpmusk-the-doge-and-pony-show-continues-trump-thread-140

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 18/03/2025 17:49

Spandauer · 18/03/2025 17:38

Here is the White House readout of the call between President Trump and President Putin.

The call lasted for over two hours.
bsky.app/profile/yasharali.bsky.social/post/3lko73dwltc2h

Does the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons bit refer to Macron announcing earlier that there will be a new French nuclear deterant base in Eastern Germany?

SerendipityJane · 18/03/2025 18:00

MrTiddlesTheCat · 18/03/2025 17:49

Does the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons bit refer to Macron announcing earlier that there will be a new French nuclear deterant base in Eastern Germany?

I think the world can follow the US lead and just disregard international law where it needs to .

Igotjelly · 18/03/2025 18:02

The Russian readout in full:

full:

  • The leaders continued a detailed and frank exchange of views on the situation around Ukraine. Vladimir Putin expressed gratitude to Donald Trump for his desire to help achieve the noble goal of ending hostilities and human losses.
  • Having confirmed his fundamental commitment to a peaceful resolution of the conflict, the Russian President declared his readiness to thoroughly work out possible ways of settlement together with his American partners, which should be comprehensive, sustainable, and long-term. And, of course, take into account the absolute need to eliminate the root causes of the crisis, Russia's legitimate interests in the field of security.
  • In the context of the US President's initiative to introduce a 30-day truce, the Russian side outlined a number of significant points regarding ensuring effective control over a possible ceasefire along the entire line of combat contact, the need to stop forced mobilisation in Ukraine and rearm the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Serious risks associated with the inability to negotiate of the Kyiv regime, which has repeatedly sabotaged and violated the agreements reached, were also noted. Attention was drawn to the barbaric terrorist crimes committed by Ukrainian militants against the civilian population of the Kursk region.
  • It was emphasised that the key condition for preventing the escalation of the conflict and working towards its resolution by political and diplomatic means should be the complete cessation of foreign military aid and the provision of intelligence information to Kyiv.
  • In connection with Donald Trump's recent appeal to save the lives of Ukrainian servicemen surrounded in the Kursk region, Vladimir Putin confirmed that the Russian side is ready to be guided by humanitarian considerations and, in the event of surrender, guarantees the lives of Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers and decent treatment in accordance with Russian laws and international law.
  • During the conversation, Donald Trump put forward a proposal for the parties to the conflict to mutually refrain from striking energy infrastructure facilities for 30 days. Vladimir Putin responded positively to this initiative and immediately gave the Russian military the corresponding order.
  • The Russian President also responded constructively to Donald Trump's idea of implementing a well-known initiative concerning the safety of navigation in the Black Sea. It was agreed to begin negotiations to further elaborate on the specific details of such an agreement.
  • Vladimir Putin informed that on 19 March, a prisoner exchange would be carried out between the Russian and Ukrainian sides - 175 for 175 people. In addition, as a gesture of goodwill, 23 seriously wounded Ukrainian servicemen who are undergoing treatment in Russian medical institutions will be transferred.
  • The leaders confirmed their intention to continue efforts to achieve a Ukrainian settlement in a bilateral mode, including taking into account the above-mentioned proposals of the US President. For this purpose, Russian and American expert groups are being created.
  • Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump also touched upon other issues on the international agenda, including the situation in the Middle East and the Red Sea region. Joint efforts will be made to stabilise the situation in crisis areas, establish cooperation on nuclear non-proliferation and global security. This, in turn, will contribute to improving the overall atmosphere of Russian-American relations. One positive example is the joint vote in the UN on the resolution on the Ukrainian conflict.
  • Mutual interest in normalising bilateral relations was expressed in light of the special responsibility of Russia and the United States for ensuring security and stability in the world. In this context, a wide range of areas in which our countries could establish cooperation was considered. A number of ideas were discussed that go towards developing mutually beneficial cooperation in the economy and energy sector in the long term.
  • Donald Trump supported Vladimir Putin's idea to organise hockey matches in the US and Russia between Russian and American players playing in the NHL and KHL.
  • The presidents agreed to stay in touch on all issues raised.
Igotjelly · 18/03/2025 20:14

😂😂

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Spandauer · 18/03/2025 20:22

Adding a pic or 2 to help fill up as I get antsy about an unfilled fred 🤪

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Spandauer · 18/03/2025 20:23

Getting eggy.

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Spandauer · 18/03/2025 20:25

How to spot a Heil.

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Spandauer · 18/03/2025 20:32

Above Cartoons: Barry Blitt
Photo collages : Cold War Steve

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DuncinToffee · 19/03/2025 10:31

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Spandauer · 19/03/2025 11:21

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Spandauer · 19/03/2025 11:22

Closing

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Spandauer · 19/03/2025 11:22

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Spandauer · 19/03/2025 11:38

Thread

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Spandauer · 19/03/2025 11:39

If MN stop getting aggy about too many posts!

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PerkingFaintly · 19/03/2025 11:45

That Private Eye one has it spot on.

Alas.

Spandauer · 19/03/2025 11:45

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PerkingFaintly · 19/03/2025 11:46

Brew for your dedication in thread-closing, @Spandauer Grin

PerkingFaintly · 19/03/2025 11:47

God, Cold War Steve nails it again, doesn't he?

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